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AMule 2.3.3
- resoluteteeth 5y agoI had no idea this still exists, but congratulations to them on the release.
- cassepipe 5y agoWhat's the difference between AMule compared to say torrents ? (I know about the latter but not about the former)
- ohgodplsno 5y agoFundamentally ? Not too much. AMule and other similar clients use both the eDonkey and Kademlia protocols. Kad is a DHT too, only taking different approaches to it than torrents do. Part of it includes it being searchable. Otherwise, similar P2P with buckets and downloading files in verifiable chunks.
- marcodiego 5y agoMain advantage: decentralized search.
- shp0ngle 5y agoYeah, I always show the crappy results of EMule/GNUtella and friends as a proof "decentralized X" does not really work Torrents really work only because there are centralized search sites like piratebay or 1337x
- Darmody 5y agoThat decentalized search is what allowed me to find stuff that was impossible to find on any torrent sites.
- capableweb 5y agoHow does something actively existing, being worked on and working for the people using it lead to you thinking its proof that it doesn't work?
- user-the-name 5y agoThe fact that it got absolutely hammered in popularity by BitTorrent is the proof.
- q-rews 5y agoPopularity has absolutely nothing to do with centralized search sites. Nothing technical ever prevented "ed2k-based Pirate Bays" to take off the same way, it's just that eMule included search so sites were never required 15 years ago, when I was using eMule, I made the switch to Torrent because Torrent was way faster for me. That's all.
- phone8675309 5y agoShareReactor was a user submitted index of content on the eDonkey network and its layout and functionality were clearly an influence on the not-yet-created Pirate Bay: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ShareReactor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ShareReactor
- fishtacos 5y agoWhen SR was at its peak, that was also ed2k's peak. In my teen and possibly post-teen years, I managed to upload some hard to find (pirated) pieces of software on the network and indexed on SR. A quick search some months back showed there were still some of them available (via a tag I used) which was a pretty fun discovery considering they're almost 20 years old.
- capableweb 5y agoThe only proof you get from BitTorrent being more popular than eMule is that BitTorrent is more popular than eMule. Doesn't mean eMule doesn't work for what it's supposed to do. "Crappy results" is at least possible with eMule while BitTorrent needs to rely on centralized tracking. That eMule still exists, is being used and no one has been able to stop it is proof to me that it does work.
- mavhc 5y agoNeed to be able to vote after downloading as to whether it was good or bad
- hannob 5y agoSuperobscure stuff. The thing with the ed2k network is: people tend to share whole directories of their content. If you want to find a documentary that ran once on TV, is not available commercially anywhere, you might have a chance that amule will find it. You may have to run your client for weeks because it goes offline from times and will only give you a few kb/s download rate, but you may get stuff you just cannot get otherwise.
- canada_dry 5y agoReleases that go back 17 years, I admire longevity in open source!
- pt_PT_guy 5y agoemule is also having releases on github under https://github.com/irwir/eMule https://github.com/irwir/eMule
- tg180 5y agogonosztopi is the main developer, and he’s doing a really great job in keeping the software alive. The introduction of CMake does not mean anything for users, but is a major feature. Previously the different build systems were mixed and not integrated: autotools, xcode, vscode, shell scripts.. It should now be easier to maintain the code base. Congrats!
- agumonkey 5y agodidn't know there were still enough users :)
- echelon 5y agoThis is the direction the web could have taken, but the venture funded ad giants grew platforms that engulfed all of publishing. The wrong focus for users, but great for making money for a select few. A small p2p client like emule might provide a good alternative to RSS and Reddit if the only things shared are articles and comments. I'd love to see copy pasted HN articles with no paywall, distributed over P2P. Archive.is style. No Javascript nonsense. Text with minimal, clean markup. Fast and performant. Cryptographically sign comments and share your interest graph - instant trust network and high signal social network.
- cryptoquick 5y agoAgreed, I wish we'd have gone down that road. How is it more efficient for my signals to go a thousand miles away and back just to talk to my neighbor across the street? I've often thought, the web isn't designed for efficiency, it's designed for scale. Scale around big tech giants, to concentrate wealth, exploit gray areas, and magnify harm. I used to love JavaScript, but when I look at what it's become, I'm glad I left it. We weren't doing the world any favors by contributing to a massive body of casual execution of untrusted code. The web was a mistake, but I think the internet, good old TCP/IP, still has a few tricks up its sleeve for us yet.
- mschuster91 5y ago> How is it more efficient for my signals to go a thousand miles away and back just to talk to my neighbor across the street? For that, your neighbor would have to run their own infrastructure, keep it updated, moderated against spam, hackers and whatnotelse. And most people don't have the resources to do that - time, money or a DSL uplink with at least something halfway decent upstream bandwidth. > I've often thought, the web isn't designed for efficiency, it's designed for scale. Not intentionally designed. But the economies of scale always win in the end - agriculture, manufacturing, even education. As a conglomerate, the Internet as a sum of actors has always converged to see inefficiencies as damage - and route and work around them.
- wussboy 5y agoWell, this takes me back. I’ve probably spent hours staring at the download queue in eDonkey then Overlord and eMule. I might spin this up just for old time’s sake.
- shp0ngle 5y agoI... cannot even figure out how to download anything from SourceForge. (which also takes me back. But not really in a good way.) The countdown goes to 0, and ... it downloads nothing. I think I'm fine though.
- ur-whale 5y ago>The countdown goes to 0, and ... it downloads nothing. But you have seen a few ads in the meantime, that's all that really matters.
- hutrdvnj 5y agoMaybe it's blocked because one of your browser extensions has sourceforge on their blacklist. At least that is what happened to me in the past. I decided to leave it blocked and downloaded somewhere else.
- shp0ngle 5y agoYeah I guess it’s browser somehow blocking Javascript-started downloads.
- hannob 5y agoThere's a github download, too.
- rzzzt 5y agoThere used to be a direct link to the download as well as a link that opens a mirror selection dialog on the countdown page. Is that visible somewhere? Edit: ah, these are now behind the "Problems downloading?" button.
- mariuolo 5y agoIt was released six months ago...
- znpy 5y agoNowadays I just use regular eMule using Wine, it works flawlessly.
- anthk 5y agoI still use MLDonkey for really old comic books not available anywhere.