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There’s a zero percent chance this can be validated but a 100% chance it will be used to increase government control. What’s being done to address the 100 corp
by josh_today 5y ago
There’s a zero percent chance this can be validated but a 100% chance it will be used to increase government control.
What’s being done to address the 100 corporations that cause 70% of the world’s emissions?
Source: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/10/just-100-firms-attributable-for-71-percent-of-global-emissions-report-says.html https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/10/just-100-firms-attributable-...
- noja 5y agoGovernment control of what exactly? Lowering emissions?
- Splognosticus 5y agoEgh, right? It's kind of annoying how whenever anyone suggests trying anything to improve society someone comes out of the woodwork to cry about government overreach. Never an argument about the merits of the proposal, just some trite hand-wringing that somewhere somehow someone might be able to use it to their political advantage. Never even an explanation of why this one thing would be so dangerous when governments already by nature have vast authority to control pretty much anything they want. Worst of all you can't reason against it, since it's not a position of reason. Regardless of what point you make they'll just dig in and ignore them. :(
- josh_today 5y agoRevisit this comment in 20 years
- OneEyedRobot 5y agoIt might as well be 1000 corporations. The problem remains a version of the village commons.
- R0b0t1 5y agoNot really. People consume what is produced. You can see this bias in news and print media and its effect on propaganda, but it really applies to all items produced. It's a popular retort to "just don't buy Apple" in the tech lockdown debates that crop up.
- namdnay 5y agoAnd what is being produced in this case is petrol (look at the list of 100 top polluting companies). So let’s tax petrol, that way we reduce consumption
- R0b0t1 5y agoThat would be amazingly unpopular. See the yellow jacket protests in France: relatively more affluent Parisians tried to tell the country gas was going to be taxed, but everyone outside of Paris needed gas to go about their life.
- throwaway52170 5y agoThey don't exist in a vacuum, polluting for its own sake
- hh3k0 5y ago> What’s being done to address the 100 corporations that cause 70% of the world’s emissions? I see that number floating around a lot, it's oversimplified and lacking context. «71% of those emissions originated from 100 fossil fuel producers. This includes the emissions from producing fossil fuels (like oil, coal and gas), and the _subsequent use of the fossil fuels they sell to other companies_.» https://fullfact.org/news/are-100-companies-causing-71-carbon-emissions/ https://fullfact.org/news/are-100-companies-causing-71-carbo... Consider what «subsequent use of the fossil fuels they sell to other companies» entails. We're talking energy, transport, manufacturing, etc.
- josh_today 5y agoAlmost everything you consume uses oil. The car you lease every 3 years, your new iPhone every 2 years, new clothes every season, etc. Will corporations make products that last 20+ years or is planned obsolescence the only way to ensure YoY revenue growth
- ben_w 5y agoRight now, sure. But to use your own example of iPhones: Apple itself is carbon neutral, and recently announced a goal of making all its suppliers carbon neutral by 2030.
- lucb1e 5y agoIf those were being addressed, you wouldn't have fossil fuel to put in your car, gas power plant, or gas heater next month. Never mind flying anywhere.