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And I want to be able to climb a mountain, drink alcohol, taste pizza, and live past age 70. All of those things can go out the window with a severe case of COV

by throwaway20371 5y ago

And I want to be able to climb a mountain, drink alcohol, taste pizza, and live past age 70. All of those things can go out the window with a severe case of COVID-19, and potentially even with an asymptomatic case, due to the long-term effects of scarring on multiple organs, and unknown long-term neurological effects. I know humans always prioritize short-term goals over long-term. But personally, I am fine with wearing a mask or staying in for a year, to ensure my health for the next 70 years. I also wear condoms when having sex with strangers. Crazy, I know, but somehow getting a lifelong disease just doesn't seem worth the momentary pleasure. All you have to do is listen to the stories of young people who are now on a breathing machine for life. If that doesn't scare the fucking bejesus out of you, I don't know what will.

spookthesunset 5y ago
All respiratory viruses can have long term effects. I’ve had super annoying colds that refused to go away for like 6 months. Covid is no different. So many people are so absolutely petrified over covid. It’s like they suddenly woke up and realized that respiratory viruses can suck and people die of horrible illness. None of this is unique to covid. It’s life. There are no guarantees. What we are doing now is not living. Vaccines were it. Time to return to actual normal.
- throwaway20371 5y ago
  > Covid is no different. Covid-19 is literally a neurological disease. It causes the body to attack itself, like an autoimmune disease, which is what is leading to the incredibly high number of severe cases leading to death. And all of the long-term, quality-of-life-impacting side-effects that have nothing to do with respiratory viruses. This has been reported for over a year. > It’s life. There are no guarantees. There's no guarantee you will get AIDS Or HepC if you have unprotected sex. Time to throw away the rubbers, we can't stop living life now can we? Oh, wait. You can still fuck with rubbers. I guess you don't have to choose between not fucking or getting AIDS. Just like you don't have to choose between being a hermit and making out with a dozen strangers at a bar. These things called "masks" are there to reduce risk without forcing us to stop living life.
  - spookthesunset 5y ago
    > This has been reported for over a year. If we covered the flu the same way we cover covid, people would be saying the same things… > These things called "masks" are there to reduce risk without forcing us to stop living life. Sorry I’m fully vaccinated. I’m not wearing a mask ever again. Masks are not normal. In fact they are quite the opposite. Vaccines were supposed to be the end. Not some kind of dystopia where everybody wears masks and treats each other like disease vectors… forever. Because some people are frightened.
    - throwaway20371 5y ago
      First, it's not forever. Over time, when we know more about the virus and it changes more, there will probably be less-severe variants where we can mostly rely on vaccination. Second, there are plenty of ways you can mitigate the need for masks and social distancing with people that you know. Just like you don't need to use condoms with a monogamous partner that you trust, you don't need to wear masks around vaccinated people that use masks and social distance around people they don't know. Third, you're not sorry. You're going to get people killed and continue to hurt the economy (and people who depend on it) because you can't stand to put a piece of cloth on your face for 5 minutes, stand back a bit from someone, or eat outside. You're freaking out and being childish because you personally don't care about the consequences, while ignoring the consequences for everyone else. It's the same as people who refused to wear condoms during the AIDS crisis because "they're not normal".
      - spookthesunset 5y ago
        > Over time, when we know more about the virus and it changes more, there will probably be less-severe variants where we can mostly rely on vaccination. With all due respect, this is a crazy take. Calling me childish and telling me that I’m “freaking out” is bullying and textbook gaslighting. Covid is not novel at this point. It’s been a thing since very early 2020. What more are we possibly gonna know about it? It’s a respiratory virus. Not unlike many of its kind. We have a vaccine for it. Anybody who is at risk can walk in and get it free. I’m fully vaccinated. There is absolutely no reason for me to wear a mask. I’ve done my part. My obligations to society are over. I now can return to actual normal, no matter what people convince themselves of. Pushing this dystopian “new normal” crap is, quite frankly, insane. There will be no new normal. People pushing for it need to be rigorously called out for the insanity they are preaching. Party is over.

spookthesunset 5y ago

All respiratory viruses can have long term effects. I’ve had super annoying colds that refused to go away for like 6 months. Covid is no different. So many people are so absolutely petrified over covid. It’s like they suddenly woke up and realized that respiratory viruses can suck and people die of horrible illness. None of this is unique to covid. It’s life. There are no guarantees. What we are doing now is not living. Vaccines were it. Time to return to actual normal.

throwaway20371 5y ago
> Covid is no different. Covid-19 is literally a neurological disease. It causes the body to attack itself, like an autoimmune disease, which is what is leading to the incredibly high number of severe cases leading to death. And all of the long-term, quality-of-life-impacting side-effects that have nothing to do with respiratory viruses. This has been reported for over a year. > It’s life. There are no guarantees. There's no guarantee you will get AIDS Or HepC if you have unprotected sex. Time to throw away the rubbers, we can't stop living life now can we? Oh, wait. You can still fuck with rubbers. I guess you don't have to choose between not fucking or getting AIDS. Just like you don't have to choose between being a hermit and making out with a dozen strangers at a bar. These things called "masks" are there to reduce risk without forcing us to stop living life.
- spookthesunset 5y ago
  > This has been reported for over a year. If we covered the flu the same way we cover covid, people would be saying the same things… > These things called "masks" are there to reduce risk without forcing us to stop living life. Sorry I’m fully vaccinated. I’m not wearing a mask ever again. Masks are not normal. In fact they are quite the opposite. Vaccines were supposed to be the end. Not some kind of dystopia where everybody wears masks and treats each other like disease vectors… forever. Because some people are frightened.
  - throwaway20371 5y ago
    First, it's not forever. Over time, when we know more about the virus and it changes more, there will probably be less-severe variants where we can mostly rely on vaccination. Second, there are plenty of ways you can mitigate the need for masks and social distancing with people that you know. Just like you don't need to use condoms with a monogamous partner that you trust, you don't need to wear masks around vaccinated people that use masks and social distance around people they don't know. Third, you're not sorry. You're going to get people killed and continue to hurt the economy (and people who depend on it) because you can't stand to put a piece of cloth on your face for 5 minutes, stand back a bit from someone, or eat outside. You're freaking out and being childish because you personally don't care about the consequences, while ignoring the consequences for everyone else. It's the same as people who refused to wear condoms during the AIDS crisis because "they're not normal".
    - spookthesunset 5y ago
      > Over time, when we know more about the virus and it changes more, there will probably be less-severe variants where we can mostly rely on vaccination. With all due respect, this is a crazy take. Calling me childish and telling me that I’m “freaking out” is bullying and textbook gaslighting. Covid is not novel at this point. It’s been a thing since very early 2020. What more are we possibly gonna know about it? It’s a respiratory virus. Not unlike many of its kind. We have a vaccine for it. Anybody who is at risk can walk in and get it free. I’m fully vaccinated. There is absolutely no reason for me to wear a mask. I’ve done my part. My obligations to society are over. I now can return to actual normal, no matter what people convince themselves of. Pushing this dystopian “new normal” crap is, quite frankly, insane. There will be no new normal. People pushing for it need to be rigorously called out for the insanity they are preaching. Party is over.