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The damn thing fogs up my classes when it's cold, and is hot and sweaty when it's warm. When I speak, I frequently have to repeat myself, and I can't casually t

The damn thing fogs up my classes when it's cold, and is hot and sweaty when it's warm. When I speak, I frequently have to repeat myself, and I can't casually take a sip of water or eat a snack. And while this part pertains more to other people wearing masks—I honestly feel like universal masking affects me psychologically. I have a huge amount of trouble recognizing people's faces when their masks are on—I didn't even recognize my sister when I ran into her on the subway—and I'm not able to read anyone's expressions. I'm not an anti-masker, and I wore one diligently throughout 2020 and early 2021, but I'm just not willing to do it forever! Wearing a mask is by no means torturous, but I really do think it is life-altering. Similar to social distancing, masks change every single interaction I have with others. I'm aware that masks protect others in addition to myself, but where does my responsibility end? I wear a mask on public transit, and I'll wear a mask any time someone asks me to put one on. But I'm not going to wear one otherwise, and I'm significantly less likely to go into a store if there's a sign on the front that masks are required. I think I should be able to make that choice, and other people can make the opposite choice. --- Edit: Re your edit, sorry about that, I actually deleted the above comment from downthread in order to post it here instead, and our actions seem to have crossed.

awsthro00945 5y ago
>The damn thing fogs up my classes when it's cold, and is hot and sweaty when it's warm. When I speak, I frequently have to repeat myself, and I can't casually take a sip of water or eat a snack. Wow. I'm so sorry you have had to go through this horrificness. After reading your comment, I am now convinced that it is completely reasonable that other people should have to catch covid and die so that you don't have your glasses fogged up or have to repeat yourself occasionally. Thank you so much for opening my eyes to these tragedies. In fact, we should probably repeal all laws that require people to wear clothes in public, since shirts and pants also forcibly oppress everyone into being hot and sweaty. I'll contact my congressman. To be more serious, do you seriously think others don't face these same issues with wearing a mask, and yet they do it anyway with no problem? My glasses fog up all the time. I get over it. I have to repeat myself every now and then. I get over it. Are you really so fragile that you can't deal with these things like every other human being on Earth is capable of doing?
- shkkmo 5y ago
  Educating people on the benefits for yourself and others of wearing a mask is good. Snarky condescending comments like this just alienate people and do nothing to help. They are also against the site guidelines.
  - awsthro00945 5y ago
    We're long past the point where "educating people" is going to help. The people left who still refuse to mask up are not doing it because of lack of education, and it's time to publicly shame them for their selfishness and arrogance, just like we shame drunk drivers or litterers.
    - shkkmo 5y ago
      Public shaming works best if the people being shamed care about the regard of those doing the shaming. It works very poorly when the topic is polarized and the shaming can be easily brushed off. The more hyperbolic and over the top you make this shaming, the easier it is to brush off.
    - Wowfunhappy 5y ago
      I'm really, honestly trying my best to have a reasoned discussion about this! But I don't know where the misunderstanding is, somehow I'm looking at the same numbers for breakthrough infections as you are, and I'm seeing a very different story. To be clear, I wore a mask religiously for 15 months, and got vaccinated as soon as I could.
      - awsthro00945 5y ago
        There is no such thing as a "reasoned discussion" with someone who genuinely thinks that "my glasses get fogged up :(:(:(" is a legitimate thing to even bring up in a discussion where we are talking about people dying. The only thing you are interested in is mental gymnastics to justify your own actions so that you feel good enough to pat yourself on the back ("I used to wear masks, I'm a good person I swear!") even though you continue to do the objectively wrong thing. I don't care if you're vaccinated. I don't care if you previously wore masks. Those actions don't somehow absolve you of your current responsibility to continue wearing your mask. You don't get any "credit" for previously doing the bare minimum expected of you. That's not how this works.
cesarb 5y ago
> The damn thing fogs up my glasses when it's cold Check the nose clip of your mask. Fogging your glasses might mean it's not sealing correctly around the nose, so that the hot humid air from your breath is being directed upwards towards the interior of your glasses, and also allowing unfiltered outside air inside the mask when you inhale.
- Wowfunhappy 5y ago
  Yeah, believe me I've tried this. :( Last winter, I even bought a mask from https://zerofogmask.com/?v=7516fd43adaa https://zerofogmask.com/?v=7516fd43adaa, which you heat up with a hair drier before wearing for the first time so it molds to the shape of your face. It admittedly worked better than a normal mask, but only partially and only for a few uses, which wasn't economical at $20 each. Plus, it was particularly uncomfortable.
- prirun 5y ago
  When I was at Mayo Clinic, one of the eye doctors put tape at the top of my mask to seal it. He did the same to his because he wore glasses. This prevents fogging up glasses (or eye exam equipment). I'd suggest using paper tape for this because the skin around the eyes is very delicate and regular medical tape is a bitch to get off. They used medical tape, and I felt like it was ripping my lower eyelids off when I removed it!
- tvb12 5y ago
  I wear safety glasses and a mask at work. I pull my mask up a little so that I can catch the edge of it between my nose and the glasses. I haven't had any issues with fogging.
  - Wowfunhappy 5y ago
    I did some research on this last winter, when I was literally struggling to go outside—I walked straight into a lamp post at one point! I'm not going to be able to find the article now, but what I read it's largely dependent on the shape of your nose and face. I seem to have lost the lottery.
craftinator 5y ago
You whiny little entitled shit. People are losing their lives and loved ones due to this virus, and you're complaining that taking an easy precaution against spread is too hard because you " can't casually take a sip of water or eat a snack." You quite well can wear one forever. The reason we are still plagued with this virus is because assholes with your same arguments stopped wearing masks early on, and wouldn't get vaccinated when that became available. So at some level, your attitude is why we have 1000 people dying per day again. Glad your personal comfort is worth that, and I hope you get it!
- Wowfunhappy 5y ago
  I didn't stop wearing masks early on, I got vaccinated as soon as possible, and I've pleaded with everyone I know to get themself vaccinated as well. Please don't lump me in with COVID deniers.

awsthro00945 5y ago

>The damn thing fogs up my classes when it's cold, and is hot and sweaty when it's warm. When I speak, I frequently have to repeat myself, and I can't casually take a sip of water or eat a snack. Wow. I'm so sorry you have had to go through this horrificness. After reading your comment, I am now convinced that it is completely reasonable that other people should have to catch covid and die so that you don't have your glasses fogged up or have to repeat yourself occasionally. Thank you so much for opening my eyes to these tragedies. In fact, we should probably repeal all laws that require people to wear clothes in public, since shirts and pants also forcibly oppress everyone into being hot and sweaty. I'll contact my congressman. To be more serious, do you seriously think others don't face these same issues with wearing a mask, and yet they do it anyway with no problem? My glasses fog up all the time. I get over it. I have to repeat myself every now and then. I get over it. Are you really so fragile that you can't deal with these things like every other human being on Earth is capable of doing?

shkkmo 5y ago
Educating people on the benefits for yourself and others of wearing a mask is good. Snarky condescending comments like this just alienate people and do nothing to help. They are also against the site guidelines.
- awsthro00945 5y ago
  We're long past the point where "educating people" is going to help. The people left who still refuse to mask up are not doing it because of lack of education, and it's time to publicly shame them for their selfishness and arrogance, just like we shame drunk drivers or litterers.
  - shkkmo 5y ago
    Public shaming works best if the people being shamed care about the regard of those doing the shaming. It works very poorly when the topic is polarized and the shaming can be easily brushed off. The more hyperbolic and over the top you make this shaming, the easier it is to brush off.
  - Wowfunhappy 5y ago
    I'm really, honestly trying my best to have a reasoned discussion about this! But I don't know where the misunderstanding is, somehow I'm looking at the same numbers for breakthrough infections as you are, and I'm seeing a very different story. To be clear, I wore a mask religiously for 15 months, and got vaccinated as soon as I could.
    - awsthro00945 5y ago
      There is no such thing as a "reasoned discussion" with someone who genuinely thinks that "my glasses get fogged up :(:(:(" is a legitimate thing to even bring up in a discussion where we are talking about people dying. The only thing you are interested in is mental gymnastics to justify your own actions so that you feel good enough to pat yourself on the back ("I used to wear masks, I'm a good person I swear!") even though you continue to do the objectively wrong thing. I don't care if you're vaccinated. I don't care if you previously wore masks. Those actions don't somehow absolve you of your current responsibility to continue wearing your mask. You don't get any "credit" for previously doing the bare minimum expected of you. That's not how this works.

cesarb 5y ago

> The damn thing fogs up my glasses when it's cold Check the nose clip of your mask. Fogging your glasses might mean it's not sealing correctly around the nose, so that the hot humid air from your breath is being directed upwards towards the interior of your glasses, and also allowing unfiltered outside air inside the mask when you inhale.

Wowfunhappy 5y ago
Yeah, believe me I've tried this. :( Last winter, I even bought a mask from https://zerofogmask.com/?v=7516fd43adaa https://zerofogmask.com/?v=7516fd43adaa, which you heat up with a hair drier before wearing for the first time so it molds to the shape of your face. It admittedly worked better than a normal mask, but only partially and only for a few uses, which wasn't economical at $20 each. Plus, it was particularly uncomfortable.
prirun 5y ago
When I was at Mayo Clinic, one of the eye doctors put tape at the top of my mask to seal it. He did the same to his because he wore glasses. This prevents fogging up glasses (or eye exam equipment). I'd suggest using paper tape for this because the skin around the eyes is very delicate and regular medical tape is a bitch to get off. They used medical tape, and I felt like it was ripping my lower eyelids off when I removed it!
tvb12 5y ago
I wear safety glasses and a mask at work. I pull my mask up a little so that I can catch the edge of it between my nose and the glasses. I haven't had any issues with fogging.
- Wowfunhappy 5y ago
  I did some research on this last winter, when I was literally struggling to go outside—I walked straight into a lamp post at one point! I'm not going to be able to find the article now, but what I read it's largely dependent on the shape of your nose and face. I seem to have lost the lottery.

craftinator 5y ago

You whiny little entitled shit. People are losing their lives and loved ones due to this virus, and you're complaining that taking an easy precaution against spread is too hard because you " can't casually take a sip of water or eat a snack." You quite well can wear one forever. The reason we are still plagued with this virus is because assholes with your same arguments stopped wearing masks early on, and wouldn't get vaccinated when that became available. So at some level, your attitude is why we have 1000 people dying per day again. Glad your personal comfort is worth that, and I hope you get it!

Wowfunhappy 5y ago
I didn't stop wearing masks early on, I got vaccinated as soon as possible, and I've pleaded with everyone I know to get themself vaccinated as well. Please don't lump me in with COVID deniers.