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Just like how, according to the 9/11 commission report, on the morning of 9/11 there was a "chance meeting" between the two guys who ran the investigation into
by Alex3917 5y ago
Just like how, according to the 9/11 commission report, on the morning of 9/11 there was a "chance meeting" between the two guys who ran the investigation into attacks (Porter Graham and Bob Goss) and the guy who wired 100k to the lead hijacker (Ahmad).
source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porter_Goss https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porter_Goss
- tpmx 5y ago> On the morning of September 11, 2001, Goss and Graham were having breakfast with General Ahmad [head of Pakistan's Inter Services Intelligence (ISI)] Secondary source for the $100k money transfer from the ISI head to Atta: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/jul/22/usa.september11 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/jul/22/usa.september1... > Significantly, Sheikh is also the man who, on the instructions of General Mahmoud Ahmed, the then head of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), wired $100,000 before the 9/11 attacks to Mohammed Atta, the lead hijacker. It is extraordinary that neither Ahmed nor Sheikh have been charged and brought to trial on this count. Why not?
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- throwawaysea 5y agoThe ISI has also been implicated in giving harbor to Al Qaeda (like with bin Laden) and the Taliban (helping them rebuild and take over Afghanistan again). Between these and near constant state supported terrorism against India, how is it that Pakistan has escaped all accountability and public scrutiny? I would love to learn more about the foreign policy or diplomatic dynamics that may be involved here.
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- brunnock 5y agoJesus. How did they get away with genocide? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_genocide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_genocide
- tpmx 5y agoreading that: wtf (never heard about this)
- fighterpilot 5y agoI have also never heard about it and am shocked that I have not given how high the death count is.
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- baybal2 5y agoAsk Indira. They exchanged 1971 captives for 1965 captives
- rainhacker 5y ago> Task Force 74 was a task force assembled from the Seventh Fleet of the United States Navy that was deployed to the Bay of Bengal by the Nixon administration in December 1971, at the height of the Indo-Pakistani War of 1971 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Task_Force_74 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Task_Force_74 US administration at the time supported Pakistan in that war. The genocide isn’t even acknowledged: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/genocide-us-cant-remember-bangladesh-cant-forget-180961490/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/genocide-us-cant-reme...
- iooi 5y agoRead "Directorate S" by Steve Coll.
- rasz 5y agoHere is the reason https://www.nti.org/learn/countries/pakistan/nuclear/ https://www.nti.org/learn/countries/pakistan/nuclear/ . Pakistan has nukes making it untouchable and unmentionable. Media doesnt even try to link Pakistan with Taliban and super quick fall of Afghanistan.
- tpmx 5y agoReason they have nukes: Because China more or less gave them to the country, in an utterly irresponsible move in a game of asian geopolitical chess.
- mrobot 5y agoThis article starts off with meeting between Graham/Goss and Mahmoud Ahmed, or 'Mehmood Ahmed' as it is spelled some other places. Also, what is the reason spellings always differ so much? https://archive.is/ttTRs https://archive.is/ttTRs
- kingofpandora 5y agoTransliteration schemes from one language/alphabet to another are not always consistent. If I'd have to guess, Mehmood is what is used in Pakistan, reflecting local pronunciation, whereas Mahmoud is the more traditional Arabic translation of the name (which is Arabic).
- ithkuil 5y agoThe "oo" and "ou" spelling difference has more to do with the english vs french influence, with Pakistan having had more English than French influence.
- tailrecursion 5y agoThe spellings reflect different transliteration schemes that can be used for Arabic.
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- fastasucan 5y agoHow would you translate french "bœuf" to american english? Well, we have, "beef". But someone would also just use boeuf which might have a closer recemblance with the pronounciation of the original word. So whats most important, to have an as direct as possible spelling to how it is pronounced or just make an own version of it. We have the same with a lot of names in the west as well, Jacob, Jakob, Yakob, Yakov, Jakub, Jakup etc.
- voldacar 5y agothe amount of "chance" surrounding the 9/11 event truly boggles the mind. I can't think of any other historical occurence that even comes close
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- tikwidd 5y agoHere's another weird one. One of the 9/11 hijackers [1] checked into a Florida hospital with apparent cutaneous Anthrax symptoms. After investigation of this incident, the FBI officially ruled out a link between 9/11 and the 2001 Anthrax attacks [2]. The main suspect in the Anthrax attacks, Bruce Ivins, committed suicide. A lot of unknowns remain and I'm still not sure if I believe the official FBI story about Ivins. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_al-Haznawi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_al-Haznawi [2] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/mar/24/terrorism.anthrax https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/mar/24/terrorism.anth...
- raldi 5y agoAll this sarcasm is getting confusing. Can you just clearly state what you're insinuating?