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Are they really impactful though? Maybe in terms of selling things, but have the Kardashians (or whoever is the biggest influencer) impacted the world the same

by moksly 5y ago

Are they really impactful though? Maybe in terms of selling things, but have the Kardashians (or whoever is the biggest influencer) impacted the world the same way that someone like Rudolph Murdoch has?

listenallyall 5y ago
You're picking and choosing. Murdoch is rich AND (or because) he owns a global media organization, which provides influence/impact. Plenty of billionaires have tiny impact or influence, or just in a small niche, in fact, most of them you probably wouldn't even recognize their name.
- moksly 5y ago
  Those billionaires still have the means to impact the world in ways that you or I do not, should they chose to do so.
  - listenallyall 5y ago
    Make a coherent argument. You were comparing to the Kardashians, who are massively influential, not to "you or I". And so what "if they choose to"? They've chosen not to.
  - filmgirlcw 5y ago
    But to use your example, the Kardashian’s are billionaires, meaning they could impact the world should they choose to. And Murdoch, to use your other example, didn’t start to build his global influence until the 1980s, some 30 years into his career. And although the global influence of his media groups isn’t debatable, it is important to note that the vast majority of his newspaper properties are tabloids.
  - paulpauper 5y ago
    even if they wanted to, I think they would find that their success to be quite limited. Without using google, what is the name of Ray Dalio's 2017 book. It got some media attention at the time, but surely being how rich he is you should have heard about it. Or Bill Gates' latest book.
  - nebula8804 5y ago
    I am reminded of how Bloomberg spent $500 million dollars on his ill-fated presidential campaign that lasted 100 days....about 4 months. It was clear proof that money does not always result in impact.
rkk3 5y ago
> have the Kardashians (or whoever is the biggest influencer) impacted the world the same way that someone like Rudolph Murdoch has? believe you are referring to Rupert Murdoch. They do have some similarities... both are billionaires with widely successful tv shows about their family drama.

by moksly 5y ago

listenallyall 5y ago

You're picking and choosing. Murdoch is rich AND (or because) he owns a global media organization, which provides influence/impact. Plenty of billionaires have tiny impact or influence, or just in a small niche, in fact, most of them you probably wouldn't even recognize their name.

moksly 5y ago
Those billionaires still have the means to impact the world in ways that you or I do not, should they chose to do so.
- listenallyall 5y ago
  Make a coherent argument. You were comparing to the Kardashians, who are massively influential, not to "you or I". And so what "if they choose to"? They've chosen not to.
- filmgirlcw 5y ago
  But to use your example, the Kardashian’s are billionaires, meaning they could impact the world should they choose to. And Murdoch, to use your other example, didn’t start to build his global influence until the 1980s, some 30 years into his career. And although the global influence of his media groups isn’t debatable, it is important to note that the vast majority of his newspaper properties are tabloids.
- paulpauper 5y ago
  even if they wanted to, I think they would find that their success to be quite limited. Without using google, what is the name of Ray Dalio's 2017 book. It got some media attention at the time, but surely being how rich he is you should have heard about it. Or Bill Gates' latest book.
- nebula8804 5y ago
  I am reminded of how Bloomberg spent $500 million dollars on his ill-fated presidential campaign that lasted 100 days....about 4 months. It was clear proof that money does not always result in impact.

rkk3 5y ago

> have the Kardashians (or whoever is the biggest influencer) impacted the world the same way that someone like Rudolph Murdoch has? believe you are referring to Rupert Murdoch. They do have some similarities... both are billionaires with widely successful tv shows about their family drama.