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It’s not really as black&white as that. Vaccinated people are more prone to be asymptomatic when infected, which means they are less likely to notice the infec

It’s not really as black&white as that. Vaccinated people are more prone to be asymptomatic when infected, which means they are less likely to notice the infection, thus less likely to isolate and go into quarantine. This is made even worse by the fact how a whole bunch of countries have stopped testing vaccinated people, they are just assumed healthy and not contagious by default. Now throw in vaccinated people demanding to be exempt from pandemic measures, like not having to wear masks anymore and being allowed into crowded venues, and vaccinated people have the biggest potential to become the new super spreaders.

sudosysgen 5y ago
Vaccinated people are less symptomatic because they have a lower viral load. Their infectivity window is lower. In the corresponding time frames, they have similar symptoms
- freeflight 5y ago
  If they had similar symptoms then there would be no point to the vaccination at all because it’s symptoms why people get hospitalized. By now that’s even become the main argument for vaccinations: Less hospitalizations due to less severe symptoms. While all the talk about “herd immunity”, the original most pushed reason for mass vaccinations, has turned out to be not realistic.
  - sudosysgen 5y ago
    No, that's not what I'm saying. Whether you're unvaccinated or vaccinated, you are asymptomatic during the times you're most infectious. By the time you develop symptoms you're statistically not that likely to infect people if you're unvaccinated. If you were vaccinated, you would have cleared the infection already. And in vaccinated people even that infectious phase is lower.
stjohnswarts 5y ago
None of your logic is valid if everyone gets vaccinated as it will be "as good as it can be". Some non controllable number of people will get the disease, but the number of people in ER and ICU will be way down and they can get the help they need instead of help from an exhausted, overworked ICU department that is far from in optimal condition to handle you and other non-covid emergency cases. Your "logic" simple falls apart at the seams.

sudosysgen 5y ago

Vaccinated people are less symptomatic because they have a lower viral load. Their infectivity window is lower. In the corresponding time frames, they have similar symptoms

freeflight 5y ago
If they had similar symptoms then there would be no point to the vaccination at all because it’s symptoms why people get hospitalized. By now that’s even become the main argument for vaccinations: Less hospitalizations due to less severe symptoms. While all the talk about “herd immunity”, the original most pushed reason for mass vaccinations, has turned out to be not realistic.
- sudosysgen 5y ago
  No, that's not what I'm saying. Whether you're unvaccinated or vaccinated, you are asymptomatic during the times you're most infectious. By the time you develop symptoms you're statistically not that likely to infect people if you're unvaccinated. If you were vaccinated, you would have cleared the infection already. And in vaccinated people even that infectious phase is lower.

stjohnswarts 5y ago

None of your logic is valid if everyone gets vaccinated as it will be "as good as it can be". Some non controllable number of people will get the disease, but the number of people in ER and ICU will be way down and they can get the help they need instead of help from an exhausted, overworked ICU department that is far from in optimal condition to handle you and other non-covid emergency cases. Your "logic" simple falls apart at the seams.