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Overweight and elderly is not something you can fix in an hour with a free vaccine shot. Don’t you see the obvious difference?

freeflight 5y ago
The shot doesn’t work in an hour nor does it fix the actual problem. Nor is it really as simple as just trying to bully everybody into getting injected with vaccines that have been developed and pushed trough regulatory approval in record times. The last time something like that happened, during the 2009 H1N1 pandemic, it turned out the people skeptical of rushed vaccinations were actually the ones with the right idea. While many others ended up suffering for the rest of their life’s for it, among them a whole lot of children.
- javagram 5y ago
  I’m talking about the amount of time and effort one has to put in. Losing weight can take years even for a determined person, recommended weight loss speed is usually 1-2 lbs per week at most. To get vaccinated you have to just drop by the pharmacy during your grocery store run, wait about 15 minutes after the shot for observation, and it’s complete. (If taking a 2 shot vaccine, repeat the same 30 minute task 4 weeks later). Asking people to become non-obese before entering society is an entirely different level of effort. Asking people to become non-elderly is an impossibility at our current or near-future level of science. H1N1 was nowhere near as dangerous as COVID-19. And even in that case there’s no reason to believe getting the flu vaccine that year was a bad idea. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/history/narcolepsy-flu.html https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/history/narcoleps... “ In 2018, a study team including CDC scientists analyzed and published vaccine safety data on adjuvanted pH1N1 vaccines (arenaprix-AS03, Focetria-MF59, and Pandemrix-AS03) from 10 global study sites. Researchers did not detect any associations between the vaccines and narcolepsy.”
throwawaylinux 5y ago
So? It's for their own good. Don't you care about what is best for the undesirables?
- javagram 5y ago
  It’s impossible to fix being elderly by telling them to take a medication or some other means. It just doesn’t scientifically exist. By suggesting we should require the elderly to become non-elderly before mixing with society, you’d be asking the impossible. That makes no sense and no one rational would consider it to be “for their own good”.
  - throwawaylinux 5y ago
    The reason to exclude them is not whether or not it's possible to "fix" them. That is irrelevant. The reason to exclude them is that it is for their own good. That's what the original poster said was stated. I am not asking for the impossible, I am asking that we also protect all the other undesirables and deplorables for their own good.

freeflight 5y ago

The shot doesn’t work in an hour nor does it fix the actual problem. Nor is it really as simple as just trying to bully everybody into getting injected with vaccines that have been developed and pushed trough regulatory approval in record times. The last time something like that happened, during the 2009 H1N1 pandemic, it turned out the people skeptical of rushed vaccinations were actually the ones with the right idea. While many others ended up suffering for the rest of their life’s for it, among them a whole lot of children.

javagram 5y ago
I’m talking about the amount of time and effort one has to put in. Losing weight can take years even for a determined person, recommended weight loss speed is usually 1-2 lbs per week at most. To get vaccinated you have to just drop by the pharmacy during your grocery store run, wait about 15 minutes after the shot for observation, and it’s complete. (If taking a 2 shot vaccine, repeat the same 30 minute task 4 weeks later). Asking people to become non-obese before entering society is an entirely different level of effort. Asking people to become non-elderly is an impossibility at our current or near-future level of science. H1N1 was nowhere near as dangerous as COVID-19. And even in that case there’s no reason to believe getting the flu vaccine that year was a bad idea. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/history/narcolepsy-flu.html https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/history/narcoleps... “ In 2018, a study team including CDC scientists analyzed and published vaccine safety data on adjuvanted pH1N1 vaccines (arenaprix-AS03, Focetria-MF59, and Pandemrix-AS03) from 10 global study sites. Researchers did not detect any associations between the vaccines and narcolepsy.”

throwawaylinux 5y ago

So? It's for their own good. Don't you care about what is best for the undesirables?

javagram 5y ago
It’s impossible to fix being elderly by telling them to take a medication or some other means. It just doesn’t scientifically exist. By suggesting we should require the elderly to become non-elderly before mixing with society, you’d be asking the impossible. That makes no sense and no one rational would consider it to be “for their own good”.
- throwawaylinux 5y ago
  The reason to exclude them is not whether or not it's possible to "fix" them. That is irrelevant. The reason to exclude them is that it is for their own good. That's what the original poster said was stated. I am not asking for the impossible, I am asking that we also protect all the other undesirables and deplorables for their own good.