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> I don’t see any reason why this wouldn’t kill all these gas stations Because they'll just put in fast chargers. There is a need for many more DC fast charger

> I don’t see any reason why this wouldn’t kill all these gas stations Because they'll just put in fast chargers. There is a need for many more DC fast chargers than are currently available and gas stations are installing them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TVohXHjLro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TVohXHjLro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6BGJy49u4w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6BGJy49u4w EV fast charger installation is all about the location and gas stations already have good locations.

Waterluvian 5y ago
Unlike gas, people can fill up at home and work. Indeed there will be people who have to inconveniently stop at one of these locations. But they’ll endeavour to avoid it whenever possible. Furthermore, the fast chargers popping up everywhere near me are simply parking spots in more interesting commercial areas like Walmart, fast food, Home Depot, etc. Why would we have dedicated plots of land for just chargers? Install them in existing parking lots. I’m convinced these gas stations are mostly going away.
- ghaff 5y ago
  I have to believe locations will often be different. If I had an EV and couldn't charge at home, I'd be charging at the chargers next to one of my local supermarkets. I'm not going to go to one of the gas station locations around where I live and twiddle my thumbs for 20 minutes even if they had charging.
- clouddrover 5y ago
  > Why would we have dedicated plots of land for just chargers? To have cover out of the rain. To have room to charge with a trailer attached. To charge larger vehicles.
  - Waterluvian 5y ago
    I’ve seen all of these things in the Walmart parking lot. I think there’s a lack of imagination or a desire to confirm one’s priors.
    - clouddrover 5y ago
      And I've seen plenty of chargers in parking lots with none of these things. You don't have to "think" anything. The practical outcomes speak for themselves. Chargers are going in at gas stations right now.
      - dagw 5y ago
        Anecdotally, one gas station around here has put in chargers, but I never see anybody using them. However every time I go to the grocery store I see a dozen cars plugged into the charges in the parking lot there.

Waterluvian 5y ago

Unlike gas, people can fill up at home and work. Indeed there will be people who have to inconveniently stop at one of these locations. But they’ll endeavour to avoid it whenever possible. Furthermore, the fast chargers popping up everywhere near me are simply parking spots in more interesting commercial areas like Walmart, fast food, Home Depot, etc. Why would we have dedicated plots of land for just chargers? Install them in existing parking lots. I’m convinced these gas stations are mostly going away.

ghaff 5y ago
I have to believe locations will often be different. If I had an EV and couldn't charge at home, I'd be charging at the chargers next to one of my local supermarkets. I'm not going to go to one of the gas station locations around where I live and twiddle my thumbs for 20 minutes even if they had charging.
clouddrover 5y ago
> Why would we have dedicated plots of land for just chargers? To have cover out of the rain. To have room to charge with a trailer attached. To charge larger vehicles.
- Waterluvian 5y ago
  I’ve seen all of these things in the Walmart parking lot. I think there’s a lack of imagination or a desire to confirm one’s priors.
  - clouddrover 5y ago
    And I've seen plenty of chargers in parking lots with none of these things. You don't have to "think" anything. The practical outcomes speak for themselves. Chargers are going in at gas stations right now.
    - dagw 5y ago
      Anecdotally, one gas station around here has put in chargers, but I never see anybody using them. However every time I go to the grocery store I see a dozen cars plugged into the charges in the parking lot there.