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> On vim and emacs on the other side you have simply no way at all to figure something out from the baseline Do you actually know emacs? It's the most well doc

by brabel 5y ago

> On vim and emacs on the other side you have simply no way at all to figure something out from the baseline Do you actually know emacs? It's the most well documented application I've ever used. And it's famous for exactly that and it has a "culture" of including INFO pages for everything. I completely disagree with you on that. You can use emacs like you use VS Code, clicking around and letting lsp-ui render those colourful help popups everywhere... I agree it's a bit more difficult to install the right packages, but that's the only difference I see between them. Once they're installed, it's basically the same, you need to just "know" how to do what you need and the tool won't magically teach you.

slightwinder 5y ago
> Do you actually know emacs? It's the most well documented application I've ever used. Yes, I'm using it for a long time now. And while emacs has its ways, they are not obvious, nor standard. That's what I mean with baseline, the common knowledge of users. Emacs out of the box is not very accessible, and spacemacs&co. do not change much in that regard. You still need to work on discovering the ways of emacs to gain something from it. VS Code in that regard is different. It's a GUI and all the user need to know is how GUIs today work, which is common knowledge. > it has a "culture" of including INFO pages for everything Barfing out information for anything and everything does not mean it's good or helpful. Emacs documentation is also infamous for how dated and useless it can be, especially for beginners.
- brabel 5y ago
  > Barfing out information for anything and everything does not mean it's good or helpful. Right, and every VSCode plugin has perfect documentation?
  - slightwinder 5y ago
    Nothing is perfect.