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Parler was a haven for hate speech, I don't have any problem if tech giants refuse to enable such applications (and would have a problem if they did nothing).

by simias 5y ago

Parler was a haven for hate speech, I don't have any problem if tech giants refuse to enable such applications (and would have a problem if they did nothing). If the parler devs were more competent they could've made their own website with their own infrastructure. There are many despicable websites that survive that way (the kiwi one comes to mind). But why bother when you can play the victim and not have to actually do anything complicated like hosting a website with your own resources.

roenxi 5y ago
> Parler was a haven for hate speech Jan 8: Parler becomes #1 downloaded app in App Store Jan 8, night of: AWS legal compliance awakes in cold sweat, haunted by visions of hate Jan 9: On January 9, Amazon announced that it would suspend Parler from Amazon Web Services, effective at 11:59 p.m PST the next day. Now AWS obviously had this in the pipeline for a while, but I'm just saying, it isn't crazy to think that the final call was made after someone in AWS talked to someone at Apple and someone at Twitter. It looks like a political hit. I dunno, maybe Apple has a lot of hateful users.
- blitzar 5y ago
  > App gets huge amounts of media coverage. > App gets lots of downloads. Hardly a shock. If there was a political hit, then I am sure you would start out by not letting it trend to #1 and market it for free on everyone’s screen.
Nextgrid 5y ago
Parler was openly welcoming hate speech while Facebook and similar garbage pretend to disallow it while secretly profiting off it. I don't like Parler nor the speech it wanted to allow but I don't think it's any worse than Facebook & co. FB is just better at hiding it and protecting their public image, but deep down all they care about is "engagement" and turns out divisive, outrageous and controversial content "engages" a lot more. Remember that the Capitol attacks were mostly orchestrated on Facebook and this disgusting company happily profited off the build-up to these attacks.
- jazzyjackson 5y ago
  thank you facebook harbored a multitude of qanon “groups” of thousands of members each. it wasn’t hard to find them, if you interacted with one post in the genre you would get the groups recommended to you. the harm seemed obvious to me, you can’t let people speculate about who is and isn’t a child trafficker without expecting death threats and the occasional violent mob
- atatatat 5y ago
  Delivering your users messages unmolested is enabling hate speech, in 2021.
rvz 5y ago
Facebook was used to orchestrate the capitol riots [0] [1] and also allowed similar content to spread on their platform for years and they continued to downplay their involvement despite profiting from it, even before the event. They're just as bad as Parler. > If the parler devs were more competent they could've made their own website with their own infrastructure. There are many despicable websites that survive that way (the kiwi one comes to mind). So essentially Facebook is part of the despicable websites you speak of then, since they are entrenched on the internet and you are saying that the devs of every other social network is incompetent for using someone else's infrastructure? [0] https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/craigsilverman/facebook-failed-stop-the-steal-insurrection https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/craigsilverman/facebook... [1] https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/some-pro-trump-extremsists-used-facebook-plan-capitol-attack-report-n1254794 https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/some-pro-trump-extrem...

by simias 5y ago

roenxi 5y ago

> Parler was a haven for hate speech Jan 8: Parler becomes #1 downloaded app in App Store Jan 8, night of: AWS legal compliance awakes in cold sweat, haunted by visions of hate Jan 9: On January 9, Amazon announced that it would suspend Parler from Amazon Web Services, effective at 11:59 p.m PST the next day. Now AWS obviously had this in the pipeline for a while, but I'm just saying, it isn't crazy to think that the final call was made after someone in AWS talked to someone at Apple and someone at Twitter. It looks like a political hit. I dunno, maybe Apple has a lot of hateful users.

blitzar 5y ago
> App gets huge amounts of media coverage. > App gets lots of downloads. Hardly a shock. If there was a political hit, then I am sure you would start out by not letting it trend to #1 and market it for free on everyone’s screen.

Nextgrid 5y ago

Parler was openly welcoming hate speech while Facebook and similar garbage pretend to disallow it while secretly profiting off it. I don't like Parler nor the speech it wanted to allow but I don't think it's any worse than Facebook & co. FB is just better at hiding it and protecting their public image, but deep down all they care about is "engagement" and turns out divisive, outrageous and controversial content "engages" a lot more. Remember that the Capitol attacks were mostly orchestrated on Facebook and this disgusting company happily profited off the build-up to these attacks.

jazzyjackson 5y ago
thank you facebook harbored a multitude of qanon “groups” of thousands of members each. it wasn’t hard to find them, if you interacted with one post in the genre you would get the groups recommended to you. the harm seemed obvious to me, you can’t let people speculate about who is and isn’t a child trafficker without expecting death threats and the occasional violent mob
atatatat 5y ago
Delivering your users messages unmolested is enabling hate speech, in 2021.

rvz 5y ago

Facebook was used to orchestrate the capitol riots [0] [1] and also allowed similar content to spread on their platform for years and they continued to downplay their involvement despite profiting from it, even before the event. They're just as bad as Parler. > If the parler devs were more competent they could've made their own website with their own infrastructure. There are many despicable websites that survive that way (the kiwi one comes to mind). So essentially Facebook is part of the despicable websites you speak of then, since they are entrenched on the internet and you are saying that the devs of every other social network is incompetent for using someone else's infrastructure? [0] https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/craigsilverman/facebook-failed-stop-the-steal-insurrection https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/craigsilverman/facebook... [1] https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/some-pro-trump-extremsists-used-facebook-plan-capitol-attack-report-n1254794 https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/some-pro-trump-extrem...