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I'm not a Go player but watched some of the famous Lee Sedol match on youtube while it was happening. One channel had a Korean professional 9-dan (= super gra
by throwaway81523 5y ago
I'm not a Go player but watched some of the famous Lee Sedol match on youtube while it was happening. One channel had a Korean professional 9-dan (= super grandmaster) commentating. At one point in game 1, AlphaGo made a move that shocked the professional. He spent a while analyzing it, asking whether it could work, etc. The next few moves were routine, so he commented on them briefly and then went back to talking about the surprising move. More moves came and he commented on those. Then perhaps 20 minutes later, during the wait for another move, he went back to the surprising move and said "if that move works, AlphaGo is going to win all 5 games". It was so far-reaching and subtle that if it was not a mistake, it could only be made by a player of superhuman strength.
As we know, Lee Sedol managed to win game 4 by a lucky break, but lost the rest, so the GM's comments were incredibly perceptive. I took a few notes while watching so I may be able to dig them up and check the details, but the surprising play became quite well-known and involved something called a "dog's head" formation, which might be enough for Go aficionados to identify it.
- throwaway2214 5y ago> Lee Sedol managed to win game 4 by a lucky break Move 78 was not a lucky break. At least in my mind. There are not many movies I cried to, in this movie I cried twice, once when Lee Sedol was apologizing for the loss, and once when he made move 78 and Alpha Go's probability to win dropped with 10%. Now for me move-78 means hope.
- gverrilla 5y agothis movie got me very emotional aswell, which is not common particularly for docs
- PartiallyTyped 5y agoI don't mean to burst your bubble, but since then, we have had significantly better algorithms than AlphaGO, and much more compute. Unless humanity moves to a point where the average skill is that of Lee, and the average intelligence is akin to JvN's I don't see hope for humanity.
- mderazon 5y agoComputers are still bad at something as basic for humans as driving, so i'd say there's still hope. Although I always wonder if give that the software was designed in a way to allow the computer to make mistakes and take risks to a reasonable amount, like humans do, would they still be crappy drivers?
- NhanH 5y agoI'd love to know which professional make that comment, so if you don't mind, can you please look it up? The move in question should be move 102, which is an invasion that human would not try.
- throwaway81523 5y agoI'm having trouble finding my notes on the match, but after looking again on youtube, I'm pretty sure the professional was Myungwan Kim.