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I’m assuming he was on Medicare, the gold standard insurance in the us?

by vxNsr 5y ago

mindslight 5y ago
Yes, but a Medicare Advantage plan through a traditional "insurance" company. I think it got him better drug coverage and a few fringe benefits. I wasn't involved in choosing the plan, I just stayed the course because it was mostly working out. I don't believe that it affected his care. There were a fixed number of hospitals, inpatient rehabs, and visiting nurse associations, and they all took his plan. And I can't possibly see their behavior being different for a different payer - the incompetence was intrinsic to their deliberate bureaucracies. The only way to rise above would have been to find providers that didn't take "insurance" at all, such that the actual customer was the patient rather than another bureaucracy. The Medicare rules were limiting by fixing the amount of rehab sessions he got per week. The length of his care would have been limited too (discharge rules), but I advocated to extend him within the system. But any bureaucracy is going to be similar, and thus the only way to fix that would be neutering the whole "insurance" cartel and forcing the industry into radical price transparency. Which is basically the line I was straddling with the private pay helpers. What Medicare really helped with is making his copays sane and giving me solid footing to push back on billing fraud. For instance, one equipment supplier sent me a bill for 50% more than it should have been, and then shamelessly stood by their story on the phone ("you owe us this amount, so you need to pay"). I presume they successfully defraud many people that way.
- vxNsr 5y ago
  In general unless your parents had tons of money you can just be honest with them, the person is 90 years old on a fixed ss income, the likelihood of you getting a single dollar is 0%. Just stop trying. Also great for advocacy in the hospital when they wanna discharge and you feel they still need to stay longer. They’re not allowed to discharge without consent, they’ll claim that you’re on the hook OOP for anything Medicare won’t cover… but if the patient has no money, who cares. The social worker can yell till she’s blue in the face about fiscal responsibility but at the end of the day, the hospital will have to eat the cost and actually perform the rehab correctly. (Speaking from experience)

I’m assuming he was on Medicare, the gold standard insurance in the us?

by vxNsr 5y ago

I’m assuming he was on Medicare, the gold standard insurance in the us?

Yes, but a Medicare Advantage plan through a traditional "insurance" company. I think it got him better drug coverage and a few fringe benefits. I wasn't involved in choosing the plan, I just stayed the course because it was mostly working out. I don't believe that it affected his care. There were a fixed number of hospitals, inpatient rehabs, and visiting nurse associations, and they all took his plan. And I can't possibly see their behavior being different for a different payer - the incompetence was intrinsic to their deliberate bureaucracies. The only way to rise above would have been to find providers that didn't take "insurance" at all, such that the actual customer was the patient rather than another bureaucracy. The Medicare rules were limiting by fixing the amount of rehab sessions he got per week. The length of his care would have been limited too (discharge rules), but I advocated to extend him within the system. But any bureaucracy is going to be similar, and thus the only way to fix that would be neutering the whole "insurance" cartel and forcing the industry into radical price transparency. Which is basically the line I was straddling with the private pay helpers. What Medicare really helped with is making his copays sane and giving me solid footing to push back on billing fraud. For instance, one equipment supplier sent me a bill for 50% more than it should have been, and then shamelessly stood by their story on the phone ("you owe us this amount, so you need to pay"). I presume they successfully defraud many people that way.

vxNsr 5y ago
In general unless your parents had tons of money you can just be honest with them, the person is 90 years old on a fixed ss income, the likelihood of you getting a single dollar is 0%. Just stop trying. Also great for advocacy in the hospital when they wanna discharge and you feel they still need to stay longer. They’re not allowed to discharge without consent, they’ll claim that you’re on the hook OOP for anything Medicare won’t cover… but if the patient has no money, who cares. The social worker can yell till she’s blue in the face about fiscal responsibility but at the end of the day, the hospital will have to eat the cost and actually perform the rehab correctly. (Speaking from experience)