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Open source applications for macOS
- reginold 5y agoWhen is macOS going open source?
- sk0g 5y agoNever? Why would it?
- reginold 5y agoWhat are we going to do, run it on knockoff M1 processors?
- fabianhjr 5y agoM1 processors are AArch64 so there is a chance one could build a modern hackintosh on top of a non-M1 AArch64 processor.
- reginold 5y agoFair point, I can see why Apple wouldn't want that! That said, do you want macOS to go open source?
- fabianhjr 5y agoI am not the person you answered to on the previous comment just added a comment on the M1 having a common Instruction Set Architecture. (AArch64) I don't care if macOS goes open source since I have none of Apple's hardware and I am quite happy with my NixOS setup.
- rdsnsca 5y agoAArch64 with a lot of Apple specific ad ons, doubt it will ever be hakintoshed.
- naveen_ 5y agoVery soon (in your dreams).
- p1necone 5y agoIt partially is already, but not really enough to be useful. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_(operating_system) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_(operating_system))
- reginold 5y agoYeah agreed. Wonder if this next decade will see either Windows or MacOS go fully open source.
- Toutouxc 5y agoMost probably not. I don't see the reasoning behind this, why would either of them do that?
- amq 5y agoBased on the current track record, I'd bet on Windows, but it might not be technically possible to open source everything due to third-party parts. Fun fact: Windows source is already available to governments under the Government Security Program.
- tcmart14 5y agoI can see Windows maybe just going to a linux base. But the important part for them to open source would be details for .exe executables. This is something I see them not open-sourcing. You'll be able to run .exes on linux, but only if your on the 'Windows' distro. That is at least my take.
- hvocode 5y agoThe details of Windows executables are all well documented and open - it's very easy to parse a windows executable and run it. The part that's missing to run it without Windows is the implementation of system calls and system libraries. Without those the executable will run into dependencies that you are missing. This is the whole reason for things like WINE - the executables are easy, but the runtime environment that Microsoft hasn't opened up is hard.
- amq 5y agoComing from Windows, I have just 2 small wishes: ability to drag windows to the edges to quickly organize them side by side, and ability to disable the drag lock - you currently either have to click or wait for a second after dragging anything.
- hiichbindermax 5y agoYou could try out Rectangle [1]. Other alternatives would be magnet (paid) or veeer (free). [1]: https://github.com/rxhanson/Rectangle https://github.com/rxhanson/Rectangle
- gsinclair 5y agoIn Mac, you can tile two windows on the screen to organise them side by side. See the Window menu. I can’t comment on the second wish.
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- theshrike79 5y agoMagnet can do the edge-drag thing: https://magnet.crowdcafe.com https://magnet.crowdcafe.com It's actually faster just to use the keyboard shortcuts though.
- mraison 5y agoOne of the first things I do when setting up a new Mac is to enable “three finger drag”. I’m pretty sure it also removes the drag lock. You’ll have to get used to the new way of dragging things though.
- rzzzt 5y agoIndeed, drag lock does not apply to the three finger gesture. The option has moved to accessibility settings from trackpad in recent OSX releases, though, so for a while I could not find it anywhere.
- Joeri 5y ago
- dfee 5y agoSeeing Oni (codebase archived), vim, and Visual Studio Code in a row tells me that this list needs an editorial direction. Because a list of cross-platform, *nix or electron apps in any state of release doesn’t mean much.
- skohan 5y agoIt depends who the audience is. If this is about getting mac users interested in open-source, the accessibility of *nix tools on the platform is not a bad inclusion.
- eyelidlessness 5y agoThis is pretty much par for the course with “awesome” lists on GitHub. They’re basically an unopinionated aggregation of what either they author found or contributed by PR.
- hrbf 5y agoExactly why at a list I co-maintain I strongly suggested to exclude Electron apps and have a clear direction. This move draws objection to this day. For me, there’s value in a curated selection, not a collection of essentially everything there is. Sadly, the “awesome” part of the lists all too often loses its meaning, because everyone interprets it differently. Anything that’s opinionated cannot at the same time be public without washing out.
- skinnymuch 5y agoWhat about having electron apps in a separate category?
- Griffinsauce 5y agoDoes an app being cross-platform diminish its value to the user?
- spacebeer 5y agoThere are no Firefox, Thudnerbird, Nextcloud client... on the list
- jonny383 5y agoFirefox has been overrun by SJW who fired their engineering team. Thunderbird was abandoned by the same group of people.
- montag 5y agoDo you have a source for those unfamiliar with the situation?
- pell 5y agoYour description of either projects says a lot more about you than about any of the events you are attempting to describe. Regardless, both Firefox and Thunderbird are and remain open source.
- eyelidlessness 5y agoFirefox, so famously lacking an engineering team it just recently shipped a major (controversial) UI overhaul.
- vesinisa 5y agoThis is a very odd omission indeed.
- alacritas0 5y agoThis is an awesome list -- Handbrake is a great frontend for FFMPEG, and OBS is wonderful for compositing live video streams for lectures. However, I just wished they would start to indicate which apps had native support for M1 since that is going to be the future of Mac.
- jb1991 5y agoEven those without native support still work just fine.
- mch82 5y agoRelated, Apple’s open source: https://opensource.apple.com/ https://opensource.apple.com/
- Justsignedup 5y agoThis list seems to be an index with no indication of activity. Example is spectacle, while an amazing tool that I love,is no longer maintained and doesn't work on latest osx.
- spockz 5y agoSpectangle can be replaced with Rectangle.app
- Justsignedup 5y agoyou are my hero
- Etheryte 5y agoAs someone still on Catalina who makes heavy use of Spectacle, this comes as a sad surprise. Spectacle had a spectacular run over the years.
- skinnymuch 5y agoUse Rectangle or support the dev and get Hookshot.
- Justsignedup 5y agooh Hookshot.app was made by the spectacle developer? Sold :)
- EasyTiger_ 5y agoThe first one I looked at (s3-uploader) was abandoned five years ago
- craftuser 5y agoSpectacle says no longer maintained, yes. I have a MBP and mini with Catalina and Big Sur. No problems with the app on either machine.
- peterfield 5y agoNo Blender? No Ardour? poor list
- netol 5y agoNice! I did a similar list for Windows once: https://orga.cat/windows-utilities https://orga.cat/windows-utilities Although mine is more opinionated I think, based on what I use. (And has a section with freeware/paid software at the end)
- CraigJPerry 5y agoThat’s a good list, a lot of it i already use but i found a few interesting new things too. I especially like your focus on the less bloated more efficient options.
- sandreas 5y agoWhat I miss the most on those lists is a search option... that is the only reason why I made my own opinionated incomplete one ;) https://pilabor.com/blog/2021/04/list-of-free-software/ https://pilabor.com/blog/2021/04/list-of-free-software/
- rainboiboi 5y agoSome of the applications are way too old. Consult this list with a pinch of salt.
- capableweb 5y agoGood? Old doesn't mean bad, and usually means stable (but albeit without bugfixes too). Not sure what "way too old" means though, you mean broken? If they are not broken, I'm not sure why'd you take them with a pinch of salt.
- nbzso 5y agoThere is nothing FOSS about macOS that I personally find appealing. The future of macOS is strictly into direction of further closing and limiting. SIP is monstrosity, Brew is hell under Catalina. There are awesome people who basically hack and find a way to port things, but comparing this with true FOSS OS is naive. Pinch of salt is not needed, the golden days when we had real MacOS are long gone. Someone asked strange question: Does an app being cross-platform diminish its value to the user? Nope. Several times no. Example: Affinity Designer is cross-platform and thank to this my production workflow can live without "active scanning" from some corporate overlord. Too much Apple brainwashing is going around, too much.
- fouc 5y agoWhat if power users always disabled SIP & didn't use Brew at all, instead used a better package manager like nix (or srcpkg or macports). Still get the benefits of a *nix like environment with the GUI of MacOS
- azalemeth 5y agoI don't have any particular hate for brew, but I do use macports as it is arguably closer to the "feel" and stability of something like yum. I've disabled SIP since day one and stick to 10.14. I urge others to disable SIP if they're developers -- each crash report includes its status and as you need it turned off to be able to debug everything, it sends a signal to apple reminding them to not shut the gate on their walled garden.
- skinnymuch 5y agoWhat differentiates 10.14 to the later two and soon three OSes? 32 bit I know is a thing but that’s not relevant to this discussion.
- webmobdev 5y ago> but I do use macports as it is arguably closer to the "feel" and stability of something like yum. That is 'cos it was developed by the same developers, hired by Apple, who also created the ports system on FreeBSD.
- pshirshov 5y agoActually, half of the stuff on that list is cross-platform. Which is good. Recently I've started pulling myself out of apple ecosystem (nixos on desktop, calyxos on my phone) and found out thah the process was easy, thanks to portable software. I was even able to quickly reuse my nix config I used on mac. The only two things which bother me are bad situation with keyboard shortcuts and some hidpi issues on Wayland.
- rejectfinite 5y agoWhy is Firefox not on the Browsers list?
- amenghra 5y agomenu bar application built with Electron No, thank you!
- stakkur 5y agoEmacs is not listed? Am I missing it?