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China tells Alibaba, Tencent to open platforms up to each other – media

10 points by quyleanh 5y ago

rektide 5y ago
reminds me more than little of facebook blocking mentions of alternative social networks. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28493823 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28493823 generally i am very very very in favor of networks getting to pick their own moderation guidelines & what not. it's not our network, it's theirs; that's really the ground truth. if we want otherwise we have all the power in the world to do otherwise, pick otherwise, nake & become otherwise (imo we should). still, just seems like a very baseline shithead low life behavior that radically reduces my respect for a comlany, walling off themselves on the on the internet, actively denying any possible threat to ever even show up on the network. i'm a little sympathetic to not carrying any water for your competition but it still seems against the spirit of things, especially on facebook, if not so much an actual marketplace site. i still dont want to force companies to behave, but it is a bit weird to me that chinese authoritarianism is being put to purpose to demand anti inter-networking behaviors be stopped.
- powerapple 5y ago
  It is not weird at all. These anti-competition thing would be result in billions in lawsuits if it happens in the US. China is still a developing country, it is still trying to figure out how to do things the best way. People have been complaining about Tencent and Alibaba's behaviours for quite some time now. Authoritarian or not, the first task for governments is economy, which is the basis of ruling. Economy is basically religion v2.0, like it or not, you have to work with it. That's why even Taliban knows it is important. In the end, you need to have a strong economy, to keep people happy. Authoritarian government does not live in a different universe, they have to obey the physical law of this world.

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China tells Alibaba, Tencent to open platforms up to each other – media

10 points by quyleanh 5y ago

rektide 5y ago
reminds me more than little of facebook blocking mentions of alternative social networks. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28493823 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28493823 generally i am very very very in favor of networks getting to pick their own moderation guidelines & what not. it's not our network, it's theirs; that's really the ground truth. if we want otherwise we have all the power in the world to do otherwise, pick otherwise, nake & become otherwise (imo we should). still, just seems like a very baseline shithead low life behavior that radically reduces my respect for a comlany, walling off themselves on the on the internet, actively denying any possible threat to ever even show up on the network. i'm a little sympathetic to not carrying any water for your competition but it still seems against the spirit of things, especially on facebook, if not so much an actual marketplace site. i still dont want to force companies to behave, but it is a bit weird to me that chinese authoritarianism is being put to purpose to demand anti inter-networking behaviors be stopped.
- powerapple 5y ago
  It is not weird at all. These anti-competition thing would be result in billions in lawsuits if it happens in the US. China is still a developing country, it is still trying to figure out how to do things the best way. People have been complaining about Tencent and Alibaba's behaviours for quite some time now. Authoritarian or not, the first task for governments is economy, which is the basis of ruling. Economy is basically religion v2.0, like it or not, you have to work with it. That's why even Taliban knows it is important. In the end, you need to have a strong economy, to keep people happy. Authoritarian government does not live in a different universe, they have to obey the physical law of this world.