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Yeah… this argument feels like a bit of a strawman. Very few people use Signal like that and Signal automated the hard parts of E2E comms.

• zamadatix 5y ago
  "Very few people use signal like that" makes me think you first tried Signal within the last ~year. Why do you think it was originally "TextSecure" and why do you think it, to this day, uses phone numbers as the identity mechanism instead of usernames? It's because it allows it to automatically know when it can upgrade from sending SMS to that contact to sending encrypted messages. And as I originally explained just around the time the mentioned award for the protocol was given (2017) it was still sending the encrypted messages over SMS instead of data. Plenty of people still use it this way on Android though. I'd say about half my Signal contacts do. I don't but that's because I use Google Voice a lot for texting (mostly as an easy way to receive 2 factor codes for work not actual messaging with anyone) and Signal only replaces the local SMS app.
  • bitexploder 5y ago
    I’ve used it since it was released… I work in infosec though. My peer groups are a little different probably.
    • zamadatix 5y ago
      Then either it's much older than you thought when you installed it or you've since forgot it used to be SMS only when it originally released. It wasn't even until late 2015 (i.e. post rename) Signal stopped using SMS for encrypted chats let alone those using it for mixed chat support.