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Suicide is offensive to society and many individuals on a deep level, especially of people who do not have a "good reason" (such as a terminal illness). While i
by quetzlbazaar 5y ago
Suicide is offensive to society and many individuals on a deep level, especially of people who do not have a "good reason" (such as a terminal illness). While it may have progressed beyond being a criminal act, it is still taboo enough for alternative and equally good avenues to exist for society to deal with it, in this case, police and physicians empowered by law with the "duty of care" concept. This is of course better than suicidal intentions being dealt with as criminal, but not as good (in my opinion) as it being dealt with as something that someone has a right to do and therefore cannot have force used against them, but perhaps should be dissuaded from, maybe similarly to abortion.
- calvinmorrison 5y agoStep 1) fabricate an SMS Step 2) call police Step 3) enjoy Wow so easy to take down your political enemies huh
- anon9001 5y agoI think you're joking, but this is actually so true that you might be committing a crime by suggesting it.
- mcherm 5y ago> this is actually so true that you might be committing a crime by suggesting it Perhaps where you live. The legal system I live under has strong protections for freedom of speech that ensure that such a statement cannot be criminalized.
- tommymachine 5y agoYou must live in Twitterstan.
- artificialLimbs 5y agoThis statement is legal in the USA.
- xyzzyz 5y agoIn Soviet Russia, government officials would remove someone, and then claim suicide. In America, they first claim suicide (risk), then remove them.
- praptak 5y agoSoviet Russia also did use phony psychiatry to get rid of opponents. Political abuse of psychiatry in Soviet Union has its own Wikipedia page.
- squabble 5y agoThere is a big difference between murdering someone and detaining someone for a day if a trained professional believes there is a high risk of suicide.
- mlang23 5y agotrained professional my ass. I have a disability, and I tell you what: Even the people "specialized" in certain disabilities usually have no idea what the fuck they are talking about. But they get good pay and are being treated like specialists by those which have even less of an idea... Outsiders usually have absolutely no idea whats going on.
- ipaddr 5y agoBelieving unaccountable decisions placed in the hands of powerful doctors without recourse results in a professional suicide assessment is not what actually happens. You may be detained for no reason and have no recourse. They may pump drugs into you.
- quantumBerry 5y agoNot only that, you may permanently lose some civil rights and privileges, such as the right to own a firearm or pilot a commercial flight.
- squabble 5y agoScary. Any ideas of how to fix it?
- vgel 5y agoThis happened to a friend of mine. "Friend" of theirs who was angry they didn't have a romantic interest in him called the police claiming they were suicidal. Police came, handcuffed them, verbally abused them, and dragged them to a hospital against their will even though they were clearly fine. They were forced to stay there for ~a day and then had no means to get home, thankfully a friend was able to pick them up and drive them home from the hospital. No consequences for the guy, of course.
- tornato7 5y agoSomething similar happened to a friend of mine and you can find plenty of stories on the internet - the way suicidal people are treated by the police is actually cruel and I can't imagine it helps anyone who is really feeling suicidal. My buddy got arrested, restrained to a hospital bed against his will, was given a cocktail of drugs, and had to stay there multiple days while getting a 'wellness check' every fifteen minutes where a nurse shakes you awake. To top it all off they sent him home with a $60,000 medical bill. Not a great way to treat someone who's going through a hard time. I definitely learned never to call the police unless someone is literally getting ready to jump off a building.
- AQuantized 5y agoWow, that sounds like a good way to make someone suicidal even if they weren't to begin with.
- Clubber 5y ago>the way suicidal people are treated by the police is actually cruel The way people are treated by the police is actually cruel. If you dug into it you would be ill.
- chillwaves 5y ago> I definitely learned never to call the police unless someone is literally getting ready to jump off a building. This is an important lesson. Do not call the police unless you literally just want them to remove a nuisance and you don't care what happens to the person or how they are dealt with. Even then, police are just a wild card with the potential for life altering outcomes. My brother called the police once because his then girlfriend was acting really crazy/violent after a night out drinking (not the first time) and they almost arrested HIM.
- cronix 5y agoSwatting only has steps 2 and 3 to worry about.
- vkou 5y agoStep 1) plant evidence of crime Step 2) call police Step 3) enjoy Do you propose that we do away with police, telephones, or crime, to solve this problem?
- comrh 5y agoIt's one of the two things every therapist will tell you that can force them to break the confidentiality. That it can take away your freedom, get you institutionalized, remove your ability to make your own medical decisions. It's important to take ideations seriously but as someone who struggled with that at points in my life I never felt completely safe about discuss it.
- quetzlbazaar 5y agoIt makes sense when you consider that the therapist is there to help you but only in a way that does not challenge society. You are right to not feel completely safe to discuss it, unfortunately. I'm not sure why this taboo has evolved to be so strong, though I would guess it runs very deep psychologically in peoples' fear of death and also has something to do with the potential societal implications to any culture which does not treat it as something to be dealt with with extreme prejudice.
- andai 5y ago>societal implications I'd expect the quality of a party you're allowed to leave to be higher than one you're not.
- quetzlbazaar 5y agoI would agree, hence the offensiveness of suicide to society in the large.
- the_rectifier 5y agoamerican society.
- squabble 5y agoAre you American?
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- eurasiantiger 5y agoSuicide is only offensive to the fools who have been brainwashed to believe in a concrete afterlife.