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I don't fully understand how archive.is operates. They don't remove copyrighted content (which I like, since it provides a useful service), they must have proba

I don't fully understand how archive.is operates. They don't remove copyrighted content (which I like, since it provides a useful service), they must have probably terabytes upon terabytes of data in some datacenter somewhere, yet they never seem to be shut down by the govt or their datacenter/cloud provider. Am I just naive to be surprised by this? How does all this work exactly?

oenetan 5y ago
Fair use applies i think.
- voldacar 5y ago
  Things on archive.org get DMCA'ed all the time
  - urthor 5y ago
    I'm almost certain the actual reason is producing all the infrastructure to DMCA content on Google/Facebook/Twitter/Youtube and other "mainstream" Web 2.0 platforms is expensive. Copyright enforcement is a lot stricter on Youtube, than say, Reddit video. It's all down to the engagement of the IP owners. My guess is they just haven't gotten around to chasing Archive.is down that hard.
    - tinus_hn 5y ago
      It’s a value proposition. Archive.is doesn’t host Hollywood blockbusters. If it is hard to take them down, nobody is going to do that as long as they don’t cause to much real damage.
- kelnos 5y ago
  I don't think retaining and publishing complete copies of copyrighted works falls under even the most generous interpretation of fair use.
- contravariant 5y ago
  It should, but I don't think it does in its current form.
logbiscuitswave 5y ago
It’s pretty shadowy for sure. There’s basically no information on the web site about the company, how they operate, who finances them, what their privacy policy is, or even how to contact them. Their “blog” is an anonymous Tumblr site.
dilyevsky 5y ago
They’re in russia so dgaf about this. The insistence on tracking and absence of https when served from inside russia kind of implies all sorts of things. Use archive.org
- voldacar 5y ago
  I will continue to use them because things get taken down from archive.org sometimes, or at any rate far more often than with archive.is. I consider it a bug when anything disappears from an archive for any reason.
grapist420 5y ago
It’s apparently self funded by him. I don’t know how he doesn’t get shut down but I don’t know how all the DMCA avoiding pirated streaming sites don’t either, or how sci hub isn’t domain blocked in the US, or why millions of copyrighted books aren’t DMCAed from libgen.
tinus_hn 5y ago
It’s easy, you just make yourself unavailable for contact, there’s plenty of providers that don’t care what you do. It’ll take years to get banned. The internet is global, it’s a choice to apply US law like the dmca. You can also choose not to.

oenetan 5y ago

Fair use applies i think.

voldacar 5y ago
Things on archive.org get DMCA'ed all the time
- urthor 5y ago
  I'm almost certain the actual reason is producing all the infrastructure to DMCA content on Google/Facebook/Twitter/Youtube and other "mainstream" Web 2.0 platforms is expensive. Copyright enforcement is a lot stricter on Youtube, than say, Reddit video. It's all down to the engagement of the IP owners. My guess is they just haven't gotten around to chasing Archive.is down that hard.
  - tinus_hn 5y ago
    It’s a value proposition. Archive.is doesn’t host Hollywood blockbusters. If it is hard to take them down, nobody is going to do that as long as they don’t cause to much real damage.
kelnos 5y ago
I don't think retaining and publishing complete copies of copyrighted works falls under even the most generous interpretation of fair use.
contravariant 5y ago
It should, but I don't think it does in its current form.

logbiscuitswave 5y ago

It’s pretty shadowy for sure. There’s basically no information on the web site about the company, how they operate, who finances them, what their privacy policy is, or even how to contact them. Their “blog” is an anonymous Tumblr site.

dilyevsky 5y ago

They’re in russia so dgaf about this. The insistence on tracking and absence of https when served from inside russia kind of implies all sorts of things. Use archive.org

voldacar 5y ago
I will continue to use them because things get taken down from archive.org sometimes, or at any rate far more often than with archive.is. I consider it a bug when anything disappears from an archive for any reason.

grapist420 5y ago

It’s apparently self funded by him. I don’t know how he doesn’t get shut down but I don’t know how all the DMCA avoiding pirated streaming sites don’t either, or how sci hub isn’t domain blocked in the US, or why millions of copyrighted books aren’t DMCAed from libgen.

tinus_hn 5y ago

It’s easy, you just make yourself unavailable for contact, there’s plenty of providers that don’t care what you do. It’ll take years to get banned. The internet is global, it’s a choice to apply US law like the dmca. You can also choose not to.