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Other conspiracy theory stuff in the ticker: thermite conspiracy & something about ELTs going off before explosions. Surprised the creator didn't cram a remote

Other conspiracy theory stuff in the ticker: thermite conspiracy & something about ELTs going off before explosions. Surprised the creator didn't cram a remote control box mention in the ticker. I hadn't seen the ELT stuff before, and a quick and lazy google didn't turn up a good debunking. Anyone have anything about ELTs being picked up @ 8:44 AM and ~8:59 AM? I don't buy any of the conspiracies, just curious. The site is really awesome, regardless.

PragmaticPulp 5y ago
> I hadn't seen the ELT stuff before, and a quick and lazy google didn't turn up a good debunking. Anyone have anything about ELTs being picked up @ 8:44 AM and ~8:59 AM? I only did a quick search. Found this transcript where someone mentions they saw a brief ELT blip on 121.5MHz: http://web.archive.org/web/20210718083443/https://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/16/national/transcript-of-united-airlines-flight-175.html http://web.archive.org/web/20210718083443/https://www.nytime... A quick read of the ELT description ( https://www.aopa.org/advocacy/aircraft/aircraft-operations/emergency-locator-transmitters https://www.aopa.org/advocacy/aircraft/aircraft-operations/e... ) shows that the 121.5MHz ELTs are associated with a high number of false triggers: > In 2009, the international COSPAS-SARSAT satellite system discontinued satellite-based monitoring of the 121.5/243 MHz frequencies, in part because of a high number of false signals attributed with these frequencies. Apparently the earliest 121.5MHz ELTs had a ridiculously high false trigger rate of 97 percent, which explains why they were deprecated: > Historically, these ELT’s have experienced an activation rate of less than 25 percent in actual crashes and a 97 percent false-alarm rate. So if false triggers were a known issue and the ELT signal was only seen extremely briefly, it's more likely someone taking a common occurrence out of context.
- IAmGraydon 5y ago
  An ELT signal was detected a couple of minutes before the first impact and another was detected a couple of minutes before the second impact. Both were detected from Lower Manhattan. Furthermore, nothing was detected from either plane at the moment of impact. This is a bit too much coincidence for me. I have no idea what could have caused this, but you have to blatantly ignore a number of red flags to swallow the official explanation.

PragmaticPulp 5y ago

> I hadn't seen the ELT stuff before, and a quick and lazy google didn't turn up a good debunking. Anyone have anything about ELTs being picked up @ 8:44 AM and ~8:59 AM? I only did a quick search. Found this transcript where someone mentions they saw a brief ELT blip on 121.5MHz: http://web.archive.org/web/20210718083443/https://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/16/national/transcript-of-united-airlines-flight-175.html http://web.archive.org/web/20210718083443/https://www.nytime... A quick read of the ELT description ( https://www.aopa.org/advocacy/aircraft/aircraft-operations/emergency-locator-transmitters https://www.aopa.org/advocacy/aircraft/aircraft-operations/e... ) shows that the 121.5MHz ELTs are associated with a high number of false triggers: > In 2009, the international COSPAS-SARSAT satellite system discontinued satellite-based monitoring of the 121.5/243 MHz frequencies, in part because of a high number of false signals attributed with these frequencies. Apparently the earliest 121.5MHz ELTs had a ridiculously high false trigger rate of 97 percent, which explains why they were deprecated: > Historically, these ELT’s have experienced an activation rate of less than 25 percent in actual crashes and a 97 percent false-alarm rate. So if false triggers were a known issue and the ELT signal was only seen extremely briefly, it's more likely someone taking a common occurrence out of context.

IAmGraydon 5y ago
An ELT signal was detected a couple of minutes before the first impact and another was detected a couple of minutes before the second impact. Both were detected from Lower Manhattan. Furthermore, nothing was detected from either plane at the moment of impact. This is a bit too much coincidence for me. I have no idea what could have caused this, but you have to blatantly ignore a number of red flags to swallow the official explanation.