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On the topic of privacy, it is strange to see the ACLU speak against mass surveillance when they recently flip flopped on vaccine mandates, which are fundamenta
by kiba 5y ago
On the topic of privacy, it is strange to see the ACLU speak against mass surveillance when they recently flip flopped on vaccine mandates, which are fundamentally about bodily autonomy and health privacy:
I don't know why people argued for bodily autonomy when viruses don't care about bodily autonomy or who they infect.
It would be one thing if a disease isn't infectious, but that's not how covid-19 works.
- SuoDuanDao 5y agoI'm reminded of that classic exchange: -"Your right to swing your fist ends at the other person's nose." -"But what if the other person's nose is continually growing?" I could argue against the right to say anything I want on the grounds hearing it might exacerbate a self-diagnosed mental health issue. I might even find a way to do so honestly, if I worked at it. We can't have no impact on our fellow citizens, and I'm not saying I know the solution, but I'm sure giving them full control over our actions is not it.
- gjsman-1000 5y agoCOVID-19 is not as bad as Smallpox or Ebola. The lack of acceptance of vaccines (partially) shows people aren't afraid of this disease and view this as an overreaction. If people were terrified because people were visibly dying in the streets and vomiting blood or walking around the grocery store disfigured for life - they'd get the vaccine like past mandates.
- Ekaros 5y agoYou have every right to protect yourself. I don't think police will stop you from wearing gas mask and bio hazard suite. As such you have every right and capability to protect yourself. Or just don't leave your own home. Simple. No need to force others to do something against their rights.
- spqr0a1 5y ago~40% of Americans live in states that have laws against wearing a mask in public spaces. Preventing people from protecting themselves is absolutely a live issue. http://www.anapsid.org/cnd/mcs/maskcodes.html http://www.anapsid.org/cnd/mcs/maskcodes.html
- Ekaros 5y agoSo maybe this is something that ACLU should take on. Actual civil liberty issue with states not protecting freedoms of people.
- throwawaysea 5y agoI can see the mask bans being useful to prevent crime. It’s hard to bring criminals to justice if their identities are hidden.