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Or, you could stop buying cheap, garbage meat that sometimes causes the problems you describe. Buy from a food coop, research the farm that supplies the meat. I

Or, you could stop buying cheap, garbage meat that sometimes causes the problems you describe. Buy from a food coop, research the farm that supplies the meat. If you have the luxury to make informed choices, do that. Of course, good luck getting the poor or working class to do any of those things. They simply want cheap, appetizing calories.

Avicebron 5y ago
I agree, it's worth it if you have the means. But looking as to why people are resorting to the cheapest most inhumane options is the root of the problem. I'm sure if everyone could afford premium, well sourced meat then the problem would be reduced, but the issue is that the poor and working class have been put into the position they are in and will choose the cheaper route out of necessity and where there is necessity, there is a market and someone willing to capitalize on it.
- bequanna 5y ago
  It isn't just out of necessity. We don't really have much of a hunger problem in the US or most of the Western world. We need to stop approaching problems by trying to force people to change their habits and preferences. That isn't going to happen. Also, regardless of the arguments and hand waving from vegetarians, vegans, PETA, etc. we should accept that the vast majority of people are meant to and will always choose to eat meat as part of their diet. If you want to get people off of conventionally produced meat you need something that normal people actually consider to be appetizing. If fact, it would be even better if they didn't realize any changes were made. The replacement for meat that has any chance of succeeding is ...meat. Lab grown meat is the only solution with any chance of mass adoption. We can control the inputs, create something more appetizing, cheaper and maybe even healthier. It checks all the boxes vs. some unholy concoction of super processed ingredients marketed as a "meat substitute".
  - lucidguppy 5y ago
    Smoking was drastically reduced in the US after a public health push.
    - bequanna 5y ago
      Nice try. Eating high quality meat is absolutely NOT a public health concern. Man, after reading some of these comments I realize how lucky I am to live in a part of the world where we push back very hard when the shrieking, alarmist minority try to force their preferences down the throats of others.

Avicebron 5y ago

I agree, it's worth it if you have the means. But looking as to why people are resorting to the cheapest most inhumane options is the root of the problem. I'm sure if everyone could afford premium, well sourced meat then the problem would be reduced, but the issue is that the poor and working class have been put into the position they are in and will choose the cheaper route out of necessity and where there is necessity, there is a market and someone willing to capitalize on it.

bequanna 5y ago
It isn't just out of necessity. We don't really have much of a hunger problem in the US or most of the Western world. We need to stop approaching problems by trying to force people to change their habits and preferences. That isn't going to happen. Also, regardless of the arguments and hand waving from vegetarians, vegans, PETA, etc. we should accept that the vast majority of people are meant to and will always choose to eat meat as part of their diet. If you want to get people off of conventionally produced meat you need something that normal people actually consider to be appetizing. If fact, it would be even better if they didn't realize any changes were made. The replacement for meat that has any chance of succeeding is ...meat. Lab grown meat is the only solution with any chance of mass adoption. We can control the inputs, create something more appetizing, cheaper and maybe even healthier. It checks all the boxes vs. some unholy concoction of super processed ingredients marketed as a "meat substitute".
- lucidguppy 5y ago
  Smoking was drastically reduced in the US after a public health push.
  - bequanna 5y ago
    Nice try. Eating high quality meat is absolutely NOT a public health concern. Man, after reading some of these comments I realize how lucky I am to live in a part of the world where we push back very hard when the shrieking, alarmist minority try to force their preferences down the throats of others.