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Steak vs chicken breast? That's not an alternative not only from the taste stand point but also nutrionally.

• timeon 5y ago
  Nutritionally it is more than good enough.
• nindalf 5y ago
  Please enlighten us, what’s missing nutritionally in chicken that you can find in steak?
  • amanaplanacanal 5y ago
    Lots of delicious saturated fat, for one.
• Retric 5y ago
  Eating a Chicken drumstick is more nutritious and healthier than a steak. That connective tissue is good for you. Chicken breast has more protein, less fat, less cholesterol, less saturated fat. Beef has slightly more iron and zinc but is overall significantly worse for you. That said their both missing vitamin C [edit: after cooking], so you need a more diverse diet anyway.
  • wyager 5y ago
    > Chicken breast has more protein, less fat, less cholesterol, less saturated fat. Beef has slightly more iron and zinc but is overall significantly worse for you. If your nutritional understanding is at the level of “fat and cholesterol are bad” you should not be giving dietary advice. You appear to be approaching this from a USDA-poster style of nutritional reasoning (please do not do this), so I’ll make two heuristic arguments: Why do you think, everywhere in the world except where there are social taboos on beef, poor people who eat chicken will preferentially switch to beef consumption when their standard of living improves enough to permit it? Is the peptide and vitamin distribution of human flesh closer to that of a cow, or that of a chicken?
    • Retric 5y ago
      The human body can produce almost everything it needs internally from most editable plants and animals. People may for example need on the order of μg/day of Bromine, Arsenic, Nickel, Fluorine, Boron, Lithium, Strontium, Silicon and Vanadium based on organic compounds containing them, but the need is slow low their plentiful in any reasonable diet. So sure, if you where building a food synthesizer from inorganic compounds then nutrition is quite complex, but in terms of diets people generally self regulate quite well with cravings often occurring should a deficiency develop. Start looking for what’s not either sufficiently plentiful in most foods or synthesized by the body and you end up with a rather short list. Vitamin C is mainly an issue because it’s destroyed by cooking, and even then people can literally go months without developing systems even with zero vitamin C. Thiamine is another one that became an issue when people started eating a lot of white rice, but again it’s food prep not the plant that’s the issue. Many arguments around optimal diets exist, but the original quote was safety not say Olympic athletes. So, based on all existing research and in the context of a normal diet, no there isn’t a significant nutritional benefit to beef over chicken. > switch to beef Because beef is tasty. It’s the same reason people don’t need to be convinced to eat chocolate.
      • wyager 5y ago
        > The human body can produce almost everything it needs internally from most editable plants and animals. I note that your statement is appropriately very strongly hedged. > So, based on all existing research and in the context of a normal diet, Dietary “science” has one of the lowest standards of rigor of any field, in the same ballpark as psychology. Until we have accurate computer models of every metabolic pathway in the human body, I’m not going to trust papers that are like “actually you can just eat soy and seitan and be fine” (incidentally, the counterfactual study got funding approval from vegan activists and seventh-day Adventists!). Also, “in the context of a normal diet” is another pretty big hedge - “normal” diets are terrible. In any case, when we’re talking about nutrition, since the state of research is so bad, we’re basically stuck with a priori reasoning and Bayesian observation, and after applying those two, my observation is that people who eat only ruminants and fish and stuff look really good and are strong and healthy, and the exact opposite is true for people who eat only vegetables, and this doesn’t really impose a big update on my prior derived from what I know about pre-agriculture food sources in these people’s evolutionary environments. > Because beef is tasty. As you point out, when your body makes something taste better than something else, it’s probably because it’s doing a better job of meeting your nutritional needs. If two foods were abundant in the evolutionary environment, I expect taste to be reasonably well-calibrated in terms of causing me to eat the nutritionally optimal distribution of foods. Ruminants and birds were both abundant in my evolutionary environment. So what does it say that ruminants taste so much better?
  • oldgradstudent 5y ago
    > That said their both missing vitamin C, so you need a more diverse diet anyway. People have been shown to live on fresh beef alone for extended period without suffering scurvy. Paradoxically, adding other might actually introduce the need for additional vitamin C.
    • Retric 5y ago
      Uncooked meat has vitamin C, but is harder to digest and risks food born diseases. Cooking is the issue rather than the lack of it in chicken or beef. People don’t need much vitamin C to avoid scurvy, a healthy person can skip it for about 3 months without significant issue.
  • the-dude 5y ago
    What is wrong with cholesterol?
    • EvilEy3 5y ago
      Nothing. Fatties seem to think that only they populate the earth.
    • Retric 5y ago
      On it’s own nothing the body needs quite a lot of it. But it can be a problem if your diet includes excessive quantities. Edit: Saying a food is healthy or not IMO really a question of how well it fits into the widest selection of current diets and lifestyles. Drinking say 1oz of sea water it generally fine and if people where frequently salt deficient then it could be considered healthy, but as insufficient salt intake is not a common problem and excessive salt intake is occasionally one I don’t think we can really consider sea water as healthy. Similarly dietary cholesterol has minimal impact on most people, but overall excess is more generally going to be an issue simply due to the small population that is at risk. As such I think we can say lower cholesterol chicken is a net positive overall unless we know more about the specific person involved.
      • the-dude 5y ago
        Well that is true for almost anything including water. What is the problem you are referring to?