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I wonder. Can this same happen on a dashboard mounted phone in a car?

by spockz 5y ago

thefounder 5y ago
No Source: personal experience
- sgt 5y ago
  Cars are better insulated and vibrate less in the first place. But if you do offroad and gravel with lots of vibrations, I think it might increase the risk.
sandworm101 5y ago
Dashboards are not bolted directly to engines. The issue is that motorcycle parts are more directly connected to the engine. Sportbikes normally use the engine as a structural member, bolting all the other bits and pieces to the engine block. So vibrations through motorcycle handlebars and such are more intense than those on the dash of even an extreme muscle car.
- dharmab 5y ago
  > Sportbikes normally use the engine as a structural member, bolting all the other bits and pieces to the engine block. Before someone asks if this could be "fixed": This is a desirable trait. It improves the frame stiffness of the vehicle, resulting in better handling. https://youtu.be/FlbkAhCNvik?t=453 https://youtu.be/FlbkAhCNvik?t=453
  - sgt 5y ago
    Refreshing to see a link to F9 on HN.
  - spockz 5y ago
    Presumably the steer bar is detached somewhat as it turns the front wheel which is sprung? Also, I can imagine that the vibrations also make it tiring to hold. So just like a proper sander can be used without getting tired arms from the shaking.
technoplato 5y ago
Ignore the motorcycle bit completely and just think physics You could trigger this on any oscillating “body” if that body is oscillating at a certain frequency and amplitude combination. It just so happens motorcycle engines produce that combination. There would certainly be others. tHe sustained nature of the shaking would also be cause for concern but I didn’t see any mention of duration in the support article
numpad0 5y ago
Potentially? But it’s a known issue only to motorcyclists and (pedal)cyclists. idk why Apple is saying this is due to engine vibration but I think it has more to do with hard suspensions.

I wonder. Can this same happen on a dashboard mounted phone in a car?

by spockz 5y ago

I wonder. Can this same happen on a dashboard mounted phone in a car?

thefounder 5y ago

No Source: personal experience

sgt 5y ago
Cars are better insulated and vibrate less in the first place. But if you do offroad and gravel with lots of vibrations, I think it might increase the risk.

sandworm101 5y ago

Dashboards are not bolted directly to engines. The issue is that motorcycle parts are more directly connected to the engine. Sportbikes normally use the engine as a structural member, bolting all the other bits and pieces to the engine block. So vibrations through motorcycle handlebars and such are more intense than those on the dash of even an extreme muscle car.

dharmab 5y ago
> Sportbikes normally use the engine as a structural member, bolting all the other bits and pieces to the engine block. Before someone asks if this could be "fixed": This is a desirable trait. It improves the frame stiffness of the vehicle, resulting in better handling. https://youtu.be/FlbkAhCNvik?t=453 https://youtu.be/FlbkAhCNvik?t=453
- sgt 5y ago
  Refreshing to see a link to F9 on HN.
- spockz 5y ago
  Presumably the steer bar is detached somewhat as it turns the front wheel which is sprung? Also, I can imagine that the vibrations also make it tiring to hold. So just like a proper sander can be used without getting tired arms from the shaking.

technoplato 5y ago

Ignore the motorcycle bit completely and just think physics You could trigger this on any oscillating “body” if that body is oscillating at a certain frequency and amplitude combination. It just so happens motorcycle engines produce that combination. There would certainly be others. tHe sustained nature of the shaking would also be cause for concern but I didn’t see any mention of duration in the support article

numpad0 5y ago

Potentially? But it’s a known issue only to motorcyclists and (pedal)cyclists. idk why Apple is saying this is due to engine vibration but I think it has more to do with hard suspensions.