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this is my bit, too. they dropped an update that arbitrarily spaced out the area in between your bookmarks folders. You can you fit less on your screen now beca

this is my bit, too. they dropped an update that arbitrarily spaced out the area in between your bookmarks folders. You can you fit less on your screen now because of the stupid spacers

elpocko 5y ago
I'm more and more wary of Firefox updates because they keep pulling shit like that. Why are they doing this? How many users are there saying "I wish my bookmarks would suddenly take up double the space as before, so I have to scroll more?" I don't get it. At least there's a workaround for the bookmark issue. There's no workaround for renamed menu items and changed shortcut keys.
dralley 5y ago
You can remove the spacers with 3 clicks.
- hypertele-Xii 5y ago
  Until you can't, because Mozilla deems that only X% of users use that feature and maintaining its configurability consumes too much organizational resources. First the GUI to edit the GUI disappears, then the about:config option follows later. That's what's been steadily happening. Less and less customizability for power users, more and more streamlining for new users.
  - arglebarglegar 5y ago
    more like “low skilled” users rather than new, and most people (by a large margin) are low skilled users… power users were the market early on, and that’s just not the case anymore… power users have been spoiled for a long time online, most things outside of tech have never been built for us
  - lavabiopsy 5y ago
    I don't see how that's a problem, you can just modify the CSS. If you too decide that's too much work and consumes too much of your resources for not enough gain, well then now you know why Mozilla made the decision.
    - wilkystyle 5y ago
      I think you just answered exactly how that's a problem...
      - lavabiopsy 5y ago
        I'm sorry I don't understand. Is the problem that modifying computer code takes effort? If so then sure, that's true, but Firefox (or any other browser) can't be blamed for that.
        wilkystyle 5y ago
        No problem, let me clarify: You suggested that the answer to a constant stream of changes was to either "just modify the CSS" or (if it's too much work for too little gain) then you essentially just accept Mozilla's decision. If those are indeed the only other options besides users finding another product, I'd say you answered exactly why Firefox is in decline.
        lavabiopsy 5y ago
        I'm sorry, I still don't understand. This is exactly the way it is with any other browser. If you don't like changes in Chrome for example, you can either modify them, accept their decision, or find another product. And Chrome is not in decline.
        wilkystyle 5y ago
        > If you don't like changes in Chrome for example, you can either modify them, accept their decision, or find another product. And Chrome is not in decline. Yes, my point exactly. You can answer "just modify the CSS" every time someone complains about a change in Firefox, but in reality users will find another product instead.
  - dralley 5y ago
    > First the GUI to edit the GUI disappears, then the about:config option follows later. > That's what's been steadily happening. You wrote this in a way that is (probably deliberately) misleading. Neither of those things have happened nor is there any indication that they will. Especially about:config which (probably) provides an enormous amount of benefit for early testing of features.
    - CRConrad 5y ago
      > > First the GUI to edit the GUI disappears, then the about:config option follows later. > > That's what's been steadily happening. > You wrote this in a way that is (probably deliberately) misleading. Neither of those things have happened nor is there any indication that they will. You're not so much misleading as outright lying. That is exactly what has been happening, over and over again.
  - AwaAwa 5y ago
    Irony being that there are barely any new users.
  - GekkePrutser 5y ago
    Yes the same now with the compact mode which is even more needed now than ever with the new UI. The compact mode now has the same density as the regular mode had before.
    - kaba0 5y ago
      And the whole thing is now something like 3px higher.. definitely a reason to go back to google, and make the only remaining libre browser fighting for an independent web crumble.
      - GekkePrutser 5y ago
        Don't get me wrong, I'm not going back but I would hate it if they remove the compact mode. It would be just another drop in the bucket but not the final one for me.
- was8309 5y ago
  can i ask how? thank you
  - dralley 5y ago
    Right click the toolbar. Click "customize toolbar". Drag the spacers from the toolbar into the element menu. Click "Done"

this is my bit, too. they dropped an update that arbitrarily spaced out the area in between your bookmarks folders. You can you fit less on your screen now because of the stupid spacers

elpocko 5y ago

I'm more and more wary of Firefox updates because they keep pulling shit like that. Why are they doing this? How many users are there saying "I wish my bookmarks would suddenly take up double the space as before, so I have to scroll more?" I don't get it. At least there's a workaround for the bookmark issue. There's no workaround for renamed menu items and changed shortcut keys.

dralley 5y ago

You can remove the spacers with 3 clicks.

hypertele-Xii 5y ago
Until you can't, because Mozilla deems that only X% of users use that feature and maintaining its configurability consumes too much organizational resources. First the GUI to edit the GUI disappears, then the about:config option follows later. That's what's been steadily happening. Less and less customizability for power users, more and more streamlining for new users.
- arglebarglegar 5y ago
  more like “low skilled” users rather than new, and most people (by a large margin) are low skilled users… power users were the market early on, and that’s just not the case anymore… power users have been spoiled for a long time online, most things outside of tech have never been built for us
- lavabiopsy 5y ago
  I don't see how that's a problem, you can just modify the CSS. If you too decide that's too much work and consumes too much of your resources for not enough gain, well then now you know why Mozilla made the decision.
  - wilkystyle 5y ago
    I think you just answered exactly how that's a problem...
    - lavabiopsy 5y ago
      I'm sorry I don't understand. Is the problem that modifying computer code takes effort? If so then sure, that's true, but Firefox (or any other browser) can't be blamed for that.
      - wilkystyle 5y ago
        No problem, let me clarify: You suggested that the answer to a constant stream of changes was to either "just modify the CSS" or (if it's too much work for too little gain) then you essentially just accept Mozilla's decision. If those are indeed the only other options besides users finding another product, I'd say you answered exactly why Firefox is in decline.
        lavabiopsy 5y ago
        I'm sorry, I still don't understand. This is exactly the way it is with any other browser. If you don't like changes in Chrome for example, you can either modify them, accept their decision, or find another product. And Chrome is not in decline.
        wilkystyle 5y ago
        > If you don't like changes in Chrome for example, you can either modify them, accept their decision, or find another product. And Chrome is not in decline. Yes, my point exactly. You can answer "just modify the CSS" every time someone complains about a change in Firefox, but in reality users will find another product instead.
- dralley 5y ago
  > First the GUI to edit the GUI disappears, then the about:config option follows later. > That's what's been steadily happening. You wrote this in a way that is (probably deliberately) misleading. Neither of those things have happened nor is there any indication that they will. Especially about:config which (probably) provides an enormous amount of benefit for early testing of features.
  - CRConrad 5y ago
    > > First the GUI to edit the GUI disappears, then the about:config option follows later. > > That's what's been steadily happening. > You wrote this in a way that is (probably deliberately) misleading. Neither of those things have happened nor is there any indication that they will. You're not so much misleading as outright lying. That is exactly what has been happening, over and over again.
- AwaAwa 5y ago
  Irony being that there are barely any new users.
- GekkePrutser 5y ago
  Yes the same now with the compact mode which is even more needed now than ever with the new UI. The compact mode now has the same density as the regular mode had before.
  - kaba0 5y ago
    And the whole thing is now something like 3px higher.. definitely a reason to go back to google, and make the only remaining libre browser fighting for an independent web crumble.
    - GekkePrutser 5y ago
      Don't get me wrong, I'm not going back but I would hate it if they remove the compact mode. It would be just another drop in the bucket but not the final one for me.
was8309 5y ago
can i ask how? thank you
- dralley 5y ago
  Right click the toolbar. Click "customize toolbar". Drag the spacers from the toolbar into the element menu. Click "Done"