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i use ffox on android because (for some reason) it's the only one I'm aware of that has ublock origin addon...( happy to be proven wrong :) I also used to use

i use ffox on android because (for some reason) it's the only one I'm aware of that has ublock origin addon...( happy to be proven wrong :) I also used to use reader mode once in a while...

znpy 5y ago
Firefox on Android used to just freeze for me. I'm happily on brave mobile, which does block ads.
- junon 5y ago
  ... and replaces them with more ads directly in the user interface (e.g. the new tab screen).
  - anotherhue 5y ago
    a) can be disabled b) not in any way like the ads you would encounter on businessinsider or similar.
    - junon 5y ago
      a) not when I last used it, there was an ongoing issue on GitHub, b) so?
  - lostmsu 5y ago
    Firefox just started doing that on desktop too :(
  - fistynuts 5y ago
    It replaces the millions of ads and trackers on the web with exactly one ad, which is as you say on the new tab screen, that you can turn off in the settings. There is also Brave Rewards, something that pays you for viewing ads but is disabled by default and can be totally hidden through another setting. This straightforward set-up isn't something I feel deserves the number of negative comments I see on here. The benefits far outweigh the minor inconvenience of changing two settings.
    - junon 5y ago
      Because it took lots of fights to get the Brave team to 1) allow disabling ads and 2) allow disabling Brave Rewards, neither of which anyone wanted and went against the whole concept of "Brave, the ad-free browser" to begin with.
      - jonathansampson 5y ago
        There was no fighting—Brave's Ads were (and are) off by default. The New Tab Page's Sponsored Images (a later addition) is on by default, but only appears on every 4th new tab, and can be turned off with 2 clicks. This type of advertising doesn't go against any of Brave's principles. The user is in control. Trackers and their ads are blocked by default as these harvest user data and more. Brave's alternative, privacy-preserving advertising model is based on user-control and consent. The user decides whether or not they will participate, and to what degree. And, the user's data is never sent off-device; users are rewarded (with 70% of the associated ad revenue) for their attention rather than their data or actions.
        junon 5y ago
        > Brave's Ads were (and are) off by default. I was never referring to ads that Brave blocks. I'm talking about the new tab ads. Those shouldn't exist. Period. > This type of advertising doesn't go against any of Brave's principles No but it goes against the notion of "ad free browsing" that Brave kind of marketed. Perhaps they toed the line with exactly what they consider "ads" but at the end of the day users installed brave wanting ZERO ads. Replacing someone else's ad for your own is not what I'd call "ad free" nor "ethical", regardless of the use (or lack thereof) of trackers. > Brave's alternative, privacy-preserving advertising model is based on user-control and consent. I never consented to ads. Period. > The user decides whether or not they will participate, and to what degree And I never decided that I wanted ads in my browser, yet here we are. > And, the user's data is never sent off-device; users are rewarded (with 70% of the associated ad revenue) for their attention rather than their data or actions. And what if I don't want a browser that has all of this fancy mining crap in it? Braves stance is "it's okay to add bloat as long as we preserve privacy". Nobody seems to see the problem with this. It's such a middle finger to users, in my opinion.
  - stjohnswarts 5y ago
    You can turn all that stuff off. I'll never understand people complaining about free stuff that is useful to them, especially when it is minor stuff.
    - junon 5y ago
      Because it's not about being free. It's about being honest and telling the complete truth.
  - znpy 5y ago
    It took me a moment to get what you're talking about. I notice such advertisement from time to time, but it's so unobstructive that I almost like them. Yes, they put advertising where it doesn't bother me and where it doesn't slow down page loading. That's brilliant. Thank you for pointing that out!
caoilte 5y ago
Me too. Bit I also haven't updated it in over a year in order to avoid the awful rewrite.
- libeclipse 5y ago
  The new updated Firefox on Android is better than the old one
  - Koshkin 5y ago
    I don't know about that, it feels weird now. I don't appreciate gratuitous changes to the UI.
  - wellthisishn 5y ago
    Totally agree. It's not intrusive, gives lots of options organized well, it's fast... great browser. I assume it's still safer than Chrome as well, seems like the best option for now
    - stjohnswarts 5y ago
      I'm not sure why anyone would use chrome on android when brave, vivaldi, firefox are all better.
      - flaburgan 5y ago
        Same old answer, and actually the real reason why Firefox marketshare is dropping: people don't change the default application.
- adtac 5y ago
  not updating browsers is a huge security risk
  - stjohnswarts 5y ago
    Exactly, unless you turn off javascript and limit yourself to a very limited subset of sites you are a sitting duck. I would have thought HN general consensus would be that this is a very very bad idea.
Xevi 5y ago
I switched from Firefox on Android to Brave. Not because I like Brave, but because I disliked the new UI in Firefox. Brave also had much better performance for JavaScript and CSS animations.
- mithusingh32 5y ago
  I tried brave. But I constantly had ads on it. It would block trackers and ads on websites but if I was to open a few tab it would have crypto ads or some other nonsense.
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  - Xevi 5y ago
    I don't see any ads when using Brave. What kind of crypto ads are you talking about?
    - christophilus 5y ago
      He’s talking about the empty tab screen. You can control what’s on it, but by default it does show ads.
      - Xevi 5y ago
        Okey, maybe I changed that a long time ago and forgot about it. Mine just shows my most visited sites.
- wellthisishn 5y ago
  I think the UI on FF mobile is more than fine.. what did you not like about it?
  - gbil 5y ago
    UI is fine but 1. Battery consumption is at least twice the one of Brave 2. There is no option to always get the desktop site which makes it useless for tablets Main reasons I also moved to Brave on all my devices. If these are fixed and Mac battery consumption is fixed I'd go back asap
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The_rationalist 5y ago
no, kiwi broser is chromium based and supports ublock origin
betwixthewires 5y ago
Kiwi Browser is a chromium based mobile browser with support for extensions. It is FOSS.
stereoradonc 5y ago
I use Adguard and Vivladi. You can also switch in built in adblocker in Vivaldi. There's no reason to use Firefox. In AdGuard, you can add "extensions" that extend the functionality of the browser. Its simple. For example, playing youtube in background or bypassing paywalls. Extensions are little javascripts.

i use ffox on android because (for some reason) it's the only one I'm aware of that has ublock origin addon...( happy to be proven wrong :) I also used to use reader mode once in a while...

znpy 5y ago

Firefox on Android used to just freeze for me. I'm happily on brave mobile, which does block ads.

junon 5y ago
... and replaces them with more ads directly in the user interface (e.g. the new tab screen).
- anotherhue 5y ago
  a) can be disabled b) not in any way like the ads you would encounter on businessinsider or similar.
  - junon 5y ago
    a) not when I last used it, there was an ongoing issue on GitHub, b) so?
- lostmsu 5y ago
  Firefox just started doing that on desktop too :(
- fistynuts 5y ago
  It replaces the millions of ads and trackers on the web with exactly one ad, which is as you say on the new tab screen, that you can turn off in the settings. There is also Brave Rewards, something that pays you for viewing ads but is disabled by default and can be totally hidden through another setting. This straightforward set-up isn't something I feel deserves the number of negative comments I see on here. The benefits far outweigh the minor inconvenience of changing two settings.
  - junon 5y ago
    Because it took lots of fights to get the Brave team to 1) allow disabling ads and 2) allow disabling Brave Rewards, neither of which anyone wanted and went against the whole concept of "Brave, the ad-free browser" to begin with.
    - jonathansampson 5y ago
      There was no fighting—Brave's Ads were (and are) off by default. The New Tab Page's Sponsored Images (a later addition) is on by default, but only appears on every 4th new tab, and can be turned off with 2 clicks. This type of advertising doesn't go against any of Brave's principles. The user is in control. Trackers and their ads are blocked by default as these harvest user data and more. Brave's alternative, privacy-preserving advertising model is based on user-control and consent. The user decides whether or not they will participate, and to what degree. And, the user's data is never sent off-device; users are rewarded (with 70% of the associated ad revenue) for their attention rather than their data or actions.
      - junon 5y ago
        > Brave's Ads were (and are) off by default. I was never referring to ads that Brave blocks. I'm talking about the new tab ads. Those shouldn't exist. Period. > This type of advertising doesn't go against any of Brave's principles No but it goes against the notion of "ad free browsing" that Brave kind of marketed. Perhaps they toed the line with exactly what they consider "ads" but at the end of the day users installed brave wanting ZERO ads. Replacing someone else's ad for your own is not what I'd call "ad free" nor "ethical", regardless of the use (or lack thereof) of trackers. > Brave's alternative, privacy-preserving advertising model is based on user-control and consent. I never consented to ads. Period. > The user decides whether or not they will participate, and to what degree And I never decided that I wanted ads in my browser, yet here we are. > And, the user's data is never sent off-device; users are rewarded (with 70% of the associated ad revenue) for their attention rather than their data or actions. And what if I don't want a browser that has all of this fancy mining crap in it? Braves stance is "it's okay to add bloat as long as we preserve privacy". Nobody seems to see the problem with this. It's such a middle finger to users, in my opinion.
- stjohnswarts 5y ago
  You can turn all that stuff off. I'll never understand people complaining about free stuff that is useful to them, especially when it is minor stuff.
  - junon 5y ago
    Because it's not about being free. It's about being honest and telling the complete truth.
- znpy 5y ago
  It took me a moment to get what you're talking about. I notice such advertisement from time to time, but it's so unobstructive that I almost like them. Yes, they put advertising where it doesn't bother me and where it doesn't slow down page loading. That's brilliant. Thank you for pointing that out!

caoilte 5y ago

Me too. Bit I also haven't updated it in over a year in order to avoid the awful rewrite.

libeclipse 5y ago
The new updated Firefox on Android is better than the old one
- Koshkin 5y ago
  I don't know about that, it feels weird now. I don't appreciate gratuitous changes to the UI.
- wellthisishn 5y ago
  Totally agree. It's not intrusive, gives lots of options organized well, it's fast... great browser. I assume it's still safer than Chrome as well, seems like the best option for now
  - stjohnswarts 5y ago
    I'm not sure why anyone would use chrome on android when brave, vivaldi, firefox are all better.
    - flaburgan 5y ago
      Same old answer, and actually the real reason why Firefox marketshare is dropping: people don't change the default application.
adtac 5y ago
not updating browsers is a huge security risk
- stjohnswarts 5y ago
  Exactly, unless you turn off javascript and limit yourself to a very limited subset of sites you are a sitting duck. I would have thought HN general consensus would be that this is a very very bad idea.

Xevi 5y ago

I switched from Firefox on Android to Brave. Not because I like Brave, but because I disliked the new UI in Firefox. Brave also had much better performance for JavaScript and CSS animations.

mithusingh32 5y ago
I tried brave. But I constantly had ads on it. It would block trackers and ads on websites but if I was to open a few tab it would have crypto ads or some other nonsense.
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- Xevi 5y ago
  I don't see any ads when using Brave. What kind of crypto ads are you talking about?
  - christophilus 5y ago
    He’s talking about the empty tab screen. You can control what’s on it, but by default it does show ads.
    - Xevi 5y ago
      Okey, maybe I changed that a long time ago and forgot about it. Mine just shows my most visited sites.
wellthisishn 5y ago
I think the UI on FF mobile is more than fine.. what did you not like about it?
- gbil 5y ago
  UI is fine but 1. Battery consumption is at least twice the one of Brave 2. There is no option to always get the desktop site which makes it useless for tablets Main reasons I also moved to Brave on all my devices. If these are fixed and Mac battery consumption is fixed I'd go back asap

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The_rationalist 5y ago

no, kiwi broser is chromium based and supports ublock origin

betwixthewires 5y ago

Kiwi Browser is a chromium based mobile browser with support for extensions. It is FOSS.

stereoradonc 5y ago

I use Adguard and Vivladi. You can also switch in built in adblocker in Vivaldi. There's no reason to use Firefox. In AdGuard, you can add "extensions" that extend the functionality of the browser. Its simple. For example, playing youtube in background or bypassing paywalls. Extensions are little javascripts.