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COVID vaccines don't stop transmission, so this is not about protecting other people.

• trekz 5y ago
  Exactly. In addition to that, this recurring argument that compares vaccine mandates to mandates prohibiting "bad" acts is odd. Legally speaking, mandating the vaccine is forcing a person to act (get jabbed) through no act of their own. Mandating abortion bans is prohibiting an act (getting an abortion). So the two scenarios aren't comparable.
  • jasonlaramburu 5y ago
    > Mandating abortion bans is prohibiting an act (getting an abortion). Banning abortion means de facto forcing someone to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term.
• gilbetron 5y ago
  For variants other than Delta they greatly reduce transmission, with Delta they still reduce it, but not nearly as much.
• ImPostingOnHN 5y ago
  they reduce it by a nonzero amount, which I believe to be an appropriate threshold, given the lack of common, significant side effects you probably have a different threshold, which is okay, but it is likely one you will have to persuade the majority to adopt, if you want to get your way
  • CryptoPunk 5y ago
    It doesn't reduce it enough to provide herd immunity, meaning the virus will continue to propagate until every one has been exposed. See Iceland's experience: https://twitter.com/eliaseythorsson/status/1424011542195023878?s=20 https://twitter.com/eliaseythorsson/status/14240115421950238... The Oxford Vaccine Group says herd immunity through vaccination is infeasible now: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/10/delta-variant-renders-herd-immunity-from-covid-mythical https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/10/delta-variant-...