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> Microsoft is building the dev environment for the next decade. Big claim, most devs I've met either use Mac or Ubuntu. Can't remember anyone using Windows...

by gitgud 5y ago

reilly3000 5y ago
It’s pretty common among game, .net, and Java EE devs. For me as a Python/Node/Cloud dev it was kinda a nonstarter (it all theoretically works, but has all kinds of little bugs and caveats) until WSL was stable. Since then it’s been perfectly viable for anything I’m working on, and I was able to use it exclusively for dev work for about 6 months. I have a Mac laptop too, but my desktop is too beefy to not use as my daily driver. Still, I prefer Linux for development work.
PufPufPuf 5y ago
There are literally dozens of us! No, really, when all of my development happens over SSH or inside Docker anyway, it doesn't really matter which is the "outer" OS. I'm happy with Windows.
dboreham 5y ago
<raises hand> I've consistently developed Unix (then Linux) server software on WindowsNT since 1996.
noisem4ker 5y ago
Have a look at JetBrains' developer surveys. Windows is consistently the most used OS. https://www.jetbrains.com/lp/devecosystem-2021/#Main_on-which-operating-systems-are-your-development-environments https://www.jetbrains.com/lp/devecosystem-2021/#Main_on-whic... Windows: 61% Linux: 47% macOS: 44%
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FpUser 5y ago
I develop Linux software on Windows using Visual Studio / C++. It lets me build and debug my servers on Linux machines remotely using nice IDE and tools. Also use CLion from Jet Brains the same way
sidlls 5y ago
Mac is a small slice of the software engineer market, and mostly in the web-app/mobile space.
- tubby12345 5y ago
  every single FAANG (and many middle tier companies too) distributes macbook pros to its devs.
  - denysvitali 5y ago
    Just because there is no viable enterprise-ish Linux computer that fits those environments. Sadly :(
    - tubby12345 5y ago
      Definitely not true since (at least at FB) you can also get an auxiliary laptop (Thinkpad) with Linux (Fedora). Just that no one wants them.
      - denysvitali 5y ago
        It really depends on the company. In my limited experience I can say that only FAANGs will probably allow such an environment. Other big corporations aren't quite there yet.
  - sidlls 5y ago
    And yet that doesn’t constitute even close to the majority of developers.

> Microsoft is building the dev environment for the next decade. Big claim, most devs I've met either use Mac or Ubuntu. Can't remember anyone using Windows...

by gitgud 5y ago

> Microsoft is building the dev environment for the next decade. Big claim, most devs I've met either use Mac or Ubuntu. Can't remember anyone using Windows...

reilly3000 5y ago

It’s pretty common among game, .net, and Java EE devs. For me as a Python/Node/Cloud dev it was kinda a nonstarter (it all theoretically works, but has all kinds of little bugs and caveats) until WSL was stable. Since then it’s been perfectly viable for anything I’m working on, and I was able to use it exclusively for dev work for about 6 months. I have a Mac laptop too, but my desktop is too beefy to not use as my daily driver. Still, I prefer Linux for development work.

PufPufPuf 5y ago

There are literally dozens of us! No, really, when all of my development happens over SSH or inside Docker anyway, it doesn't really matter which is the "outer" OS. I'm happy with Windows.

dboreham 5y ago

<raises hand> I've consistently developed Unix (then Linux) server software on WindowsNT since 1996.

noisem4ker 5y ago

Have a look at JetBrains' developer surveys. Windows is consistently the most used OS. https://www.jetbrains.com/lp/devecosystem-2021/#Main_on-which-operating-systems-are-your-development-environments https://www.jetbrains.com/lp/devecosystem-2021/#Main_on-whic... Windows: 61% Linux: 47% macOS: 44%

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FpUser 5y ago

I develop Linux software on Windows using Visual Studio / C++. It lets me build and debug my servers on Linux machines remotely using nice IDE and tools. Also use CLion from Jet Brains the same way

sidlls 5y ago

Mac is a small slice of the software engineer market, and mostly in the web-app/mobile space.

tubby12345 5y ago
every single FAANG (and many middle tier companies too) distributes macbook pros to its devs.
- denysvitali 5y ago
  Just because there is no viable enterprise-ish Linux computer that fits those environments. Sadly :(
  - tubby12345 5y ago
    Definitely not true since (at least at FB) you can also get an auxiliary laptop (Thinkpad) with Linux (Fedora). Just that no one wants them.
    - denysvitali 5y ago
      It really depends on the company. In my limited experience I can say that only FAANGs will probably allow such an environment. Other big corporations aren't quite there yet.
- sidlls 5y ago
  And yet that doesn’t constitute even close to the majority of developers.