5 ms·

Some of the most iconic 9/11 news coverage is lost. Blame Adobe Flash

21 points by tysone 5y ago

literallyaduck 5y ago
DRM, walled gardens, and divergence from plain text, open videos and images will destroy most of modern history, copyrights, cancel culture will destroy the rest. Removing history will cause it to repeat. Put it in a museum and it will be raided. V for vendetta foreshadowed the need to secretly store history.
dublinben 5y ago
The Internet Archive has 3000 hours of television news coverage from the week of 9/11/2001 preserved for future viewing: https://archive.org/details/911 https://archive.org/details/911
throwawaysea 5y ago
Should we blame Adobe or everyone else that conspired to forcibly evict it from tightly controlled platforms like Safari on iOS? In the end we traded a proprietary platform for a set of “open standards” that are mostly steered by a few monopolist tech giants for their own interests. Personally I miss Flash and the Internet it enabled. There isn’t an equivalent today.
- mypoormother 5y ago
  Criminals used Adobe Flsah to take over my mother's computer in 2002. They were able to use the CD-ROM drive to knife-rape my mother to death. Worst thing that ever happened, it broke my family apart. My dad killed himself two weeks later. I blame Adobe Flash as well as any of its proponents.
winkelwagen 5y ago
Weird to blame a file format for a poor archiving job. I’m pretty sure if they did their jobs the source/project would still be available. How is restoring paintings from the 1500s any different? It’s the walled garden they supported. What about Facebook comments on their articles? Think the realization that the internet is hard to keep immutable. These companies chose to use the easiest road instead of the best road and they are now paying the price. As long they are more concerned with a/b testing their headlines then using more open standards I find it weird that blame flash for it. Perhaps they should talk to musea instead. How they are preserving digital art.
- wodenokoto 5y ago
  These are interactive news stories. You didn’t have an alternative in 2001 to flash for interactive media online and the source material is flash.

21 points by tysone 5y ago

DRM, walled gardens, and divergence from plain text, open videos and images will destroy most of modern history, copyrights, cancel culture will destroy the rest. Removing history will cause it to repeat. Put it in a museum and it will be raided. V for vendetta foreshadowed the need to secretly store history.

dublinben 5y ago

The Internet Archive has 3000 hours of television news coverage from the week of 9/11/2001 preserved for future viewing: https://archive.org/details/911 https://archive.org/details/911

throwawaysea 5y ago

Should we blame Adobe or everyone else that conspired to forcibly evict it from tightly controlled platforms like Safari on iOS? In the end we traded a proprietary platform for a set of “open standards” that are mostly steered by a few monopolist tech giants for their own interests. Personally I miss Flash and the Internet it enabled. There isn’t an equivalent today.

mypoormother 5y ago
Criminals used Adobe Flsah to take over my mother's computer in 2002. They were able to use the CD-ROM drive to knife-rape my mother to death. Worst thing that ever happened, it broke my family apart. My dad killed himself two weeks later. I blame Adobe Flash as well as any of its proponents.

winkelwagen 5y ago

Weird to blame a file format for a poor archiving job. I’m pretty sure if they did their jobs the source/project would still be available. How is restoring paintings from the 1500s any different? It’s the walled garden they supported. What about Facebook comments on their articles? Think the realization that the internet is hard to keep immutable. These companies chose to use the easiest road instead of the best road and they are now paying the price. As long they are more concerned with a/b testing their headlines then using more open standards I find it weird that blame flash for it. Perhaps they should talk to musea instead. How they are preserving digital art.

wodenokoto 5y ago
These are interactive news stories. You didn’t have an alternative in 2001 to flash for interactive media online and the source material is flash.