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"We violate rights therefore it is fine to violate rights" The whole idea of rights is that they cannot be violated, period. There's no reason to even have for
by betwixthewires 5y ago
"We violate rights therefore it is fine to violate rights"
The whole idea of rights is that they cannot be violated, period. There's no reason to even have for example a UN Declaration on Human Rights if they can just be violated for Good Reasons™. Rights are absolute or they don't exist.
- amanaplanacanal 5y agoBy your logic then they don’t exist. There is no place in the world that rights have been absolute, and there never has been.
- betwixthewires 5y agoYou miss my point. It doesn't matter if it has never happened, that just means we have failed ourselves. What matters is defining the concept of rights, exploring what they mean and what they are. I'm not talking about if they exist in practice in any specific country, I'm talking about "what are rights?" Rights are things reserved for individuals to hold unilaterally, sovereign over them, no democratic process or other consideration can take them away. That's the whole idea. That's at the core of the definition of the concept. Without that, the concept of rights doesn't exist.