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On the one hand this great for consumer choice, on the other, it will undoubtedly lead to a loss in purchasing confidence of regular users and a flood of scams

by hrbf 5y ago

On the one hand this great for consumer choice, on the other, it will undoubtedly lead to a loss in purchasing confidence of regular users and a flood of scams or scam-like apps. Especially with regard to subscriptions, we’ve seen this play out via SMS-based ringtone subscriptions of days past. Personally, I will never subscribe to anything on my iOS devices if I cannot view and cancel it via the built-in subscription management. Here’s to hoping that Apple is going to make integration with it mandatory.

latexr 5y ago
> it will undoubtedly lead to (…) a flood of scams or scam-like apps. Scams are alive and well on the App Store, they don’t need this ruling to thrive: https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/21/22385859/apple-app-store-scams-fraud-review-enforcement-top-grossing-kosta-eleftheriou https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/21/22385859/apple-app-store-...
- hrbf 5y ago
  Way to cherry-pick and dismiss. I would argue the possible long-term loss in purchasing confidence by the customers who were burned by a bad experience weighs a lot heavier overall. Regarding scams, keep in mind that the ones I mentioned will come in addition to the existing ones, not displacing them, making an already non-ideal situation potentially way worse. To stem this, the app approval process could get even slower than it currently is. A better solution would have been to somehow force Apple to lower its fee structure. This however is incompatible with certain economic liberties we take for granted and would set a worrying precedent, so the current outcome is probably the only pragmatic one.
echelon 5y ago
We don't need a corporate nanny state. Society has thrived without Apple putting its mittens on everything and everybody.
cblconfederate 5y ago
Apple is probably going to make a list of "allowed" payment partners. This decision doesn't seem to disallow them to have a say in that.

by hrbf 5y ago

latexr 5y ago

> it will undoubtedly lead to (…) a flood of scams or scam-like apps. Scams are alive and well on the App Store, they don’t need this ruling to thrive: https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/21/22385859/apple-app-store-scams-fraud-review-enforcement-top-grossing-kosta-eleftheriou https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/21/22385859/apple-app-store-...

hrbf 5y ago
Way to cherry-pick and dismiss. I would argue the possible long-term loss in purchasing confidence by the customers who were burned by a bad experience weighs a lot heavier overall. Regarding scams, keep in mind that the ones I mentioned will come in addition to the existing ones, not displacing them, making an already non-ideal situation potentially way worse. To stem this, the app approval process could get even slower than it currently is. A better solution would have been to somehow force Apple to lower its fee structure. This however is incompatible with certain economic liberties we take for granted and would set a worrying precedent, so the current outcome is probably the only pragmatic one.

echelon 5y ago

We don't need a corporate nanny state. Society has thrived without Apple putting its mittens on everything and everybody.

cblconfederate 5y ago

Apple is probably going to make a list of "allowed" payment partners. This decision doesn't seem to disallow them to have a say in that.