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Product: Birch leaves minced - Bulk Characteristic Look and color: Green Flavor: Bitter herbal Nutrition 100 g: kJ 66 / Kcal 16, total fat 0,2

by nabla9 5y ago

Product: Birch leaves minced - Bulk Characteristic Look and color: Green Flavor: Bitter herbal Nutrition 100 g: kJ 66 / Kcal 16, total fat 0,2 g of which saturated fat 0 g, Carbohydrate 3 g, of which sugar 1,8 g, protein 7 g 16 kcal seems more reasonable.

timonoko 5y ago
Cant argue with facts at the moment. All I know birch is more fulfilling than Reindeer Moss that former SS-officer Noko was enjoying in 1944. However. This book from 1963 seems familiar "Guerilla Warfare, conditions and outlines". Maybe there is some cooking recipes, too: https://www.doria.fi/bitstream/handle/10024/130579/Sotataidon%20klassikko_Ilmola_verkkoversio1.pdf?sequence=2 https://www.doria.fi/bitstream/handle/10024/130579/Sotataido...
- nabla9 5y ago
  Official up to date recipes: Puolustusvoimat, Luonnonmuonaohje (LUMO) 1985 https://puolustusvoimat.fi/documents/1948673/2258487/PEVIESTOS-luonnonmuonaohjelmalumo1985.pdf/9fe0d164-62ea-4a26-b3b4-f93abebe1cd8/PEVIESTOS-luonnonmuonaohjelmalumo1985.pdf https://puolustusvoimat.fi/documents/1948673/2258487/PEVIEST... Tuon mukaan koivunlehtiä pitää syödä 1.1 kiloa elinvoimat ylläpitävan (5 MJ) energian saamiseksi, eli olisi hieman parempi kuin pettu. Ei hullumpi (108 kcal/100g) Noin suurta määrää ei suositella.
  - timonoko 5y ago
    Yes. "Luonnonmuonaohje" is the word. On this particular kayaking trip I was totally obsessed with post-holocaust living on the Baltic sea. Macaroni/BirchLeaves/Tabasco was the menu. You can get used to it. https://youtu.be/0P-wd3qzCBA https://youtu.be/0P-wd3qzCBA
friendly_chap 5y ago
Something is off with that calculation. Carbs and protein = 4kcal per gramm, fat is 9kcal per gramm. 0.2*9 + 7*4 + 3*4 = 41.8kcal Not going to make you fat but not too shabby either, especially the protein content. Seems you run into protein toxicity issues pretty fast around 1000kcal, but if you enter ketosis it might be a good way to protein so your muscles don't waste.
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- timonoko 5y ago
  Yes. "Luonnonmuonaohje" suggested eating exactly 1.1 kg of birch leaves producing 5 MegaJoules (1000 kcal). Some army egghead has calculated all the issues.

by nabla9 5y ago

timonoko 5y ago

Cant argue with facts at the moment. All I know birch is more fulfilling than Reindeer Moss that former SS-officer Noko was enjoying in 1944. However. This book from 1963 seems familiar "Guerilla Warfare, conditions and outlines". Maybe there is some cooking recipes, too: https://www.doria.fi/bitstream/handle/10024/130579/Sotataidon%20klassikko_Ilmola_verkkoversio1.pdf?sequence=2 https://www.doria.fi/bitstream/handle/10024/130579/Sotataido...

nabla9 5y ago
Official up to date recipes: Puolustusvoimat, Luonnonmuonaohje (LUMO) 1985 https://puolustusvoimat.fi/documents/1948673/2258487/PEVIESTOS-luonnonmuonaohjelmalumo1985.pdf/9fe0d164-62ea-4a26-b3b4-f93abebe1cd8/PEVIESTOS-luonnonmuonaohjelmalumo1985.pdf https://puolustusvoimat.fi/documents/1948673/2258487/PEVIEST... Tuon mukaan koivunlehtiä pitää syödä 1.1 kiloa elinvoimat ylläpitävan (5 MJ) energian saamiseksi, eli olisi hieman parempi kuin pettu. Ei hullumpi (108 kcal/100g) Noin suurta määrää ei suositella.
- timonoko 5y ago
  Yes. "Luonnonmuonaohje" is the word. On this particular kayaking trip I was totally obsessed with post-holocaust living on the Baltic sea. Macaroni/BirchLeaves/Tabasco was the menu. You can get used to it. https://youtu.be/0P-wd3qzCBA https://youtu.be/0P-wd3qzCBA

friendly_chap 5y ago

Something is off with that calculation. Carbs and protein = 4kcal per gramm, fat is 9kcal per gramm. 0.2*9 + 7*4 + 3*4 = 41.8kcal Not going to make you fat but not too shabby either, especially the protein content. Seems you run into protein toxicity issues pretty fast around 1000kcal, but if you enter ketosis it might be a good way to protein so your muscles don't waste.

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timonoko 5y ago
Yes. "Luonnonmuonaohje" suggested eating exactly 1.1 kg of birch leaves producing 5 MegaJoules (1000 kcal). Some army egghead has calculated all the issues.