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Yeah, agree. I think this would kill the App Store model. It's surprising that the stock only dipped by 2%. What am I missing?

jeroenhd 5y ago
Why would the app store model stop working? Paying through the app store has a direct benefit to usability. Before in app purchases the app store model worked fine. Even if the Epic lawsuit goes completely off the rails and Apple is forced to allow external app stores on iOS, they can still maintain a profitable app store if they provide the best experience to end users. Building an app store is very hard, and convincing people to install an alternative store is even harder, so I doubt they'll lose much there. The app store is so ludicrously profitable that the exclusivity they enjoy can't possibly be the only reason it's making them money. This cut into Apple's (and Google's) profits, but it certainly won't mean the end of app stores as we know them.
- gokhan 5y ago
  > if they provide the best experience to end users I don't think they can. Their DNA on this evolved as a monopoly. They won't be able to compete, they will be slow and boring while clever people will overpower them.
  - jeroenhd 5y ago
    I think they will find a way. The Mac App Store is far from a monopoly yet it still remains profitable as far as I know. My grandma isn't going to use any alternative store, she probably doesn't even understand the concept of different app stores. I think Apple will be fine, at least until competitors somehow gain a MASSIVE usability advantage.
shuger 5y ago
It's not going to end this quickly. Whichever side loses will keep going at it until they exhaust all legal paths.
dathinab 5y ago
> I think this would kill the App Store model. It doesn't kill it much more then it killed the android store in the past when it wasn't (roughly, in practice) enforcing the same thing. It's a revenue cut, but at least for the beginning it won't be a problem at all for apple, this might change at some point, but stocks have no reason to majorly drop now they still can do so in the future if it makes sense.
f6v 5y ago
> What am I missing? Google drive and Dropbox didn’t kill iCloud.
akmarinov 5y ago
This ruling enables devs to use third party payment providers, it doesn't force Apple to let alternative App Stores on iOS. Apple can and will still reject any apps they feel like.
- tompazourek 5y ago
  > Apple can and will still reject any apps they feel like. Apple now cannot reject apps because they have "Buy" links that redirect users elsewhere. And that's still a big deal.

jeroenhd 5y ago

Why would the app store model stop working? Paying through the app store has a direct benefit to usability. Before in app purchases the app store model worked fine. Even if the Epic lawsuit goes completely off the rails and Apple is forced to allow external app stores on iOS, they can still maintain a profitable app store if they provide the best experience to end users. Building an app store is very hard, and convincing people to install an alternative store is even harder, so I doubt they'll lose much there. The app store is so ludicrously profitable that the exclusivity they enjoy can't possibly be the only reason it's making them money. This cut into Apple's (and Google's) profits, but it certainly won't mean the end of app stores as we know them.

gokhan 5y ago
> if they provide the best experience to end users I don't think they can. Their DNA on this evolved as a monopoly. They won't be able to compete, they will be slow and boring while clever people will overpower them.
- jeroenhd 5y ago
  I think they will find a way. The Mac App Store is far from a monopoly yet it still remains profitable as far as I know. My grandma isn't going to use any alternative store, she probably doesn't even understand the concept of different app stores. I think Apple will be fine, at least until competitors somehow gain a MASSIVE usability advantage.

shuger 5y ago

It's not going to end this quickly. Whichever side loses will keep going at it until they exhaust all legal paths.

dathinab 5y ago

> I think this would kill the App Store model. It doesn't kill it much more then it killed the android store in the past when it wasn't (roughly, in practice) enforcing the same thing. It's a revenue cut, but at least for the beginning it won't be a problem at all for apple, this might change at some point, but stocks have no reason to majorly drop now they still can do so in the future if it makes sense.

f6v 5y ago

> What am I missing? Google drive and Dropbox didn’t kill iCloud.

akmarinov 5y ago

This ruling enables devs to use third party payment providers, it doesn't force Apple to let alternative App Stores on iOS. Apple can and will still reject any apps they feel like.

tompazourek 5y ago
> Apple can and will still reject any apps they feel like. Apple now cannot reject apps because they have "Buy" links that redirect users elsewhere. And that's still a big deal.