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In 1970's the doctrine of Finnish Army was very much post-nuclear prolonged guerrilla/revenge war. We learned that fresh birch-leaves are nukular-free nourishme
by timonoko 5y ago
In 1970's the doctrine of Finnish Army was very much post-nuclear prolonged guerrilla/revenge war. We learned that fresh birch-leaves are nukular-free nourishment unlike berries and mushrooms or small animals. Also you must dust yourself with fir branches frequently for fall-out particles.
- nabla9 5y agoTo feed any meaningful number of men who move a lot, that's not enough. Instead of hunting, you visit local farms that have stored hay safe from the fallout and have cattle kept indoors. You take what you need and leave receipt.
- timonoko 5y agoActually birch leaves have nourishment value close potatoes to 400 kcal/100 grams as I recall. And lots of vitamin C. But they taste very bad. We tested that too, with prolonged boiling and Tabasco, birch leaves are at least semi-edible. This scene we were presented was a wasteland, no farmers left. The purpose of this operation was too keep the wasteland wasted. Some Estonian "Forest Brothers" survived 40 years to see their country free again. That was the doctrine at that time.
- nabla9 5y agoProduct: Birch leaves minced - Bulk Characteristic Look and color: Green Flavor: Bitter herbal Nutrition 100 g: kJ 66 / Kcal 16, total fat 0,2 g of which saturated fat 0 g, Carbohydrate 3 g, of which sugar 1,8 g, protein 7 g 16 kcal seems more reasonable.
- timonoko 5y agoCant argue with facts at the moment. All I know birch is more fulfilling than Reindeer Moss that former SS-officer Noko was enjoying in 1944. However. This book from 1963 seems familiar "Guerilla Warfare, conditions and outlines". Maybe there is some cooking recipes, too: https://www.doria.fi/bitstream/handle/10024/130579/Sotataidon%20klassikko_Ilmola_verkkoversio1.pdf?sequence=2 https://www.doria.fi/bitstream/handle/10024/130579/Sotataido...
- nabla9 5y agoOfficial up to date recipes: Puolustusvoimat, Luonnonmuonaohje (LUMO) 1985 https://puolustusvoimat.fi/documents/1948673/2258487/PEVIESTOS-luonnonmuonaohjelmalumo1985.pdf/9fe0d164-62ea-4a26-b3b4-f93abebe1cd8/PEVIESTOS-luonnonmuonaohjelmalumo1985.pdf https://puolustusvoimat.fi/documents/1948673/2258487/PEVIEST... Tuon mukaan koivunlehtiä pitää syödä 1.1 kiloa elinvoimat ylläpitävan (5 MJ) energian saamiseksi, eli olisi hieman parempi kuin pettu. Ei hullumpi (108 kcal/100g) Noin suurta määrää ei suositella.
- timonoko 5y agoYes. "Luonnonmuonaohje" is the word. On this particular kayaking trip I was totally obsessed with post-holocaust living on the Baltic sea. Macaroni/BirchLeaves/Tabasco was the menu. You can get used to it. https://youtu.be/0P-wd3qzCBA https://youtu.be/0P-wd3qzCBA
- friendly_chap 5y agoSomething is off with that calculation. Carbs and protein = 4kcal per gramm, fat is 9kcal per gramm. 0.2*9 + 7*4 + 3*4 = 41.8kcal Not going to make you fat but not too shabby either, especially the protein content. Seems you run into protein toxicity issues pretty fast around 1000kcal, but if you enter ketosis it might be a good way to protein so your muscles don't waste.
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- timonoko 5y agoYes. "Luonnonmuonaohje" suggested eating exactly 1.1 kg of birch leaves producing 5 MegaJoules (1000 kcal). Some army egghead has calculated all the issues.