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>In a normal year 40k people die of the flu in the US. So we draw the line somewhere between 40k and the number of deaths from covid? Note, it's not 650K in th
by belltaco 5y ago
>In a normal year 40k people die of the flu in the US.
So we draw the line somewhere between 40k and the number of deaths from covid? Note, it's not 650K in the US, those are deaths after all the social distancing, mask wearing, etc and more recently vaccinations. The true number would have been in the millions just in the US if these precautions weren't taken. Actually the IFR/CFR would be at a higher rate than now because hospitals would have been completely pummeled so people who now survive due to hospital care would die at home or in an ambulance waiting for a bed. Not to mention long covid, organ damage etc. The economy would suffer even with everything open.
Are you saying that you would draw the line at more than millions dead in a year in the US for covid because we draw the line higher than 40k per year for the flu?
If anything can be learnt from this, I think the argument can be that we can do more to combat flu every year, make it socially necessary for sick people to stay at home or mask up in subways etc.(like in Japan), increase testing, increase uptake of vaccines, new better MRNA vaccines etc.
- _-david-_ 5y ago>So we draw the line somewhere between 40k and the number of deaths from covid? Why do we need to draw the line there? Why not at 10k or 1m? It seems like you are advocating we arbitrarily pick the number to not include the flu but to include covid without providing a good reason.
- belltaco 5y agoHow is 10k or 1m not artbitrary? Society has already drawn the line where I stated. You can make arguments for or against it, for example by stating 1M deaths from a respiratory should be okay.
- _-david-_ 5y agoI am not actually saying it should be 10k or 1m. I am saying your numbers appear to be arbitrary and am asking you why you didn't pick the numbers I listed. Also, society has not really drawn the line. Politicians and unelected bureaucrats have chosen for us.