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You are wrong. There are great volumes of evidence that keeping a low weight and keeping macronutrients roughly in some gap makes you live longer. I'm not sure

by R0b0t1 5y ago

You are wrong. There are great volumes of evidence that keeping a low weight and keeping macronutrients roughly in some gap makes you live longer. I'm not sure what is left to be talking about. Specific fad diets?

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tomrod 5y ago
I'm happy to be corrected. Can you provide some sources? And what about edge cases where people follow low caloric diets and persist their weight?
- Dma54rhs 5y ago
  Are you seriously arguing edge cases here? It's on level with anti vaxxer claiming his smoking overweight uncle had no problems with corona hence we both don't get vaccinated.
  - tomrod 5y ago
    I'm not arguing edge cases. I'm requesting sources and population considerations. Were I to argue, I would have included source references.
    - R0b0t1 5y ago
      This stuff is presented in middleschool and highschool health classes and pretty much everywhere on the internet if you look for life improvement advice. Weight is perhaps the single most strongly linked indicator of life expectancy. What is your level of education? I need to know so I can give you sources I am sure you can use.
      - tomrod 5y ago
        Sufficient to understand metasurveys of relevant literature and models of dynamical systems, insufficient to grok or critique individual studies outside clear statistical issues.
        R0b0t1 5y ago
        https://sci-hub.st/10.1371/journal.pmed.1001673 https://sci-hub.st/10.1371/journal.pmed.1001673 from 2014, but this has been known for decades if not centuries. A lay explanation at https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-study-finds-extreme-obesity-may-shorten-life-expectancy-14-years https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-study-find.... This is simply the first I found. If you are able to understand this literature I am quite confused as to how you can't find it yourself -- the associations go far deeper, with increased fat intake causing plaque buildup that eventually leads to heart problems. Obesity under class III also shortens life expectancy. Realize also that per what is laid out in that review someone who is 6" ~180lbs is obese, even if it mostly muscle. Even if it is obesity caused by muscle instead of fat, you don't live as long.
        tomrod 5y ago
        Thank you. Will review.
amanaplanacanal 5y ago
I don’t believe that there are any studies which show that macronutrient percentages make you live longer.

by R0b0t1 5y ago

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tomrod 5y ago

I'm happy to be corrected. Can you provide some sources? And what about edge cases where people follow low caloric diets and persist their weight?

Dma54rhs 5y ago
Are you seriously arguing edge cases here? It's on level with anti vaxxer claiming his smoking overweight uncle had no problems with corona hence we both don't get vaccinated.
- tomrod 5y ago
  I'm not arguing edge cases. I'm requesting sources and population considerations. Were I to argue, I would have included source references.
  - R0b0t1 5y ago
    This stuff is presented in middleschool and highschool health classes and pretty much everywhere on the internet if you look for life improvement advice. Weight is perhaps the single most strongly linked indicator of life expectancy. What is your level of education? I need to know so I can give you sources I am sure you can use.
    - tomrod 5y ago
      Sufficient to understand metasurveys of relevant literature and models of dynamical systems, insufficient to grok or critique individual studies outside clear statistical issues.
      - R0b0t1 5y ago
        https://sci-hub.st/10.1371/journal.pmed.1001673 https://sci-hub.st/10.1371/journal.pmed.1001673 from 2014, but this has been known for decades if not centuries. A lay explanation at https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-study-finds-extreme-obesity-may-shorten-life-expectancy-14-years https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-study-find.... This is simply the first I found. If you are able to understand this literature I am quite confused as to how you can't find it yourself -- the associations go far deeper, with increased fat intake causing plaque buildup that eventually leads to heart problems. Obesity under class III also shortens life expectancy. Realize also that per what is laid out in that review someone who is 6" ~180lbs is obese, even if it mostly muscle. Even if it is obesity caused by muscle instead of fat, you don't live as long.
        tomrod 5y ago
        Thank you. Will review.

amanaplanacanal 5y ago

I don’t believe that there are any studies which show that macronutrient percentages make you live longer.