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This really is a weird decision! And a closed source Browser, too. There was money involved in that decision, i guarantee it. Now talking about browsers since

by dtx1 5y ago

This really is a weird decision! And a closed source Browser, too. There was money involved in that decision, i guarantee it. Now talking about browsers since firefox's market share seems directly corrlated to the inverse of their CEOs paycheck, what GOOD options are still out there? * Chrome - Spyware * Chromium variations of all kind - Spyware with some mitigations * Midora, Konquerror, other weird browsers etc. - hopelessly never going to be feature complete enough to be useful * Firefox - Now with spyware AND woke politics! * Firefox based privacy remixes like libewolf - current best choice for privacy and reasonable website compatibility.

cassianoleal 5y ago
What spyware is present in Firefox?
- dtx1 5y ago
  Default behaviour to send back data to mozilla and run studies WHICH THEY ALREADY ABUSED BEFORE https://www.zdnet.com/article/privacy-touting-mozilla-caught-shoving-mr-robot-add-on-into-firefox/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/privacy-touting-mozilla-caught... edit downvote me to oblivion if you must. I too weep for the mozilla of the olden days. The inarguably good guys winnning their fight david vs goliath style against the evil Mircosoft empire. Sadly, those games are gone.
- hulitu 5y ago
  Safe browsing sends data to google.
  - SquareWheel 5y ago
    No it doesn't. It downloads a list routinely and checks requests against it locally. Firefox takes it even further and proxies that request so it appears to be coming from them. It would be extremely wasteful and privacy-invasive if they issued a query to Safe Browsing for every request.
  - hammyhavoc 5y ago
    Source?
OneEyedRobot 5y ago
>what GOOD options are still out there? You know, that's a good question given the threat exposure in a browser. Maybe the right answer is a mixture. Use a dedicated Chromebook in guest mode for financial transactions/bill paying/banking (high security, low privacy from Google) and something akin to a text-based browser on an open source OS for everything else. Is there something like Lynx but with a bit of formatting + still images? I can see going that route simply because the sheer size (in LOC) of a modern browser is so great that I question it's trustability.
- dtx1 5y ago
  > Maybe the right answer is a mixture. Use a dedicated Chromebook in guest mode for financial transactions/bill paying/banking (high security, low privacy from Google) and something akin to a text-based browser on an open source OS for everything else. The part about the chromebook is actually good advice, given the good security hardening of chromebooks from the moment they boot.
- danhor 5y ago
  > Is there something like Lynx but with a bit of formatting + still images? Sounds like dillo[0]. eww[1] is also fun, but written in emacs and probably not that trustable for this reason. [0]: https://www.dillo.org/ https://www.dillo.org/ [1]: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_mono/eww.html https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_mono/eww.html

by dtx1 5y ago

cassianoleal 5y ago

What spyware is present in Firefox?

dtx1 5y ago
Default behaviour to send back data to mozilla and run studies WHICH THEY ALREADY ABUSED BEFORE https://www.zdnet.com/article/privacy-touting-mozilla-caught-shoving-mr-robot-add-on-into-firefox/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/privacy-touting-mozilla-caught... edit downvote me to oblivion if you must. I too weep for the mozilla of the olden days. The inarguably good guys winnning their fight david vs goliath style against the evil Mircosoft empire. Sadly, those games are gone.
hulitu 5y ago
Safe browsing sends data to google.
- SquareWheel 5y ago
  No it doesn't. It downloads a list routinely and checks requests against it locally. Firefox takes it even further and proxies that request so it appears to be coming from them. It would be extremely wasteful and privacy-invasive if they issued a query to Safe Browsing for every request.
- hammyhavoc 5y ago
  Source?

OneEyedRobot 5y ago

>what GOOD options are still out there? You know, that's a good question given the threat exposure in a browser. Maybe the right answer is a mixture. Use a dedicated Chromebook in guest mode for financial transactions/bill paying/banking (high security, low privacy from Google) and something akin to a text-based browser on an open source OS for everything else. Is there something like Lynx but with a bit of formatting + still images? I can see going that route simply because the sheer size (in LOC) of a modern browser is so great that I question it's trustability.

dtx1 5y ago
> Maybe the right answer is a mixture. Use a dedicated Chromebook in guest mode for financial transactions/bill paying/banking (high security, low privacy from Google) and something akin to a text-based browser on an open source OS for everything else. The part about the chromebook is actually good advice, given the good security hardening of chromebooks from the moment they boot.
danhor 5y ago
> Is there something like Lynx but with a bit of formatting + still images? Sounds like dillo[0]. eww[1] is also fun, but written in emacs and probably not that trustable for this reason. [0]: https://www.dillo.org/ https://www.dillo.org/ [1]: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_mono/eww.html https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_mono/eww.html