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> Inevitable outcome in a society that is terrified of everything. I agree. Lots of folks afraid to take a shot that's been well-studied and given to millions

by md_ 5y ago

> Inevitable outcome in a society that is terrified of everything. I agree. Lots of folks afraid to take a shot that's been well-studied and given to millions and is, in all probability, quite safe. ;) I chalk it up to the youth, who are selfish and only able to think about themselves and their Friendster ranks and how many YouTubes they have on the FaceSpace.

kook_throwaway 5y ago
>Lots of folks afraid to take a shot that's been well-studied and given to millions and is, in all probability, quite safe. ;) That's one way to describe it. Another less charitable way to describe it: a novel gene therapy being deployed by organizations with a long history of experimenting on the people they were meant to protect. Pfizer and J&J got the two biggest fines ever handed out by the US government, and moderna and biontech have never had a drug approved before. The US government's history of performing medical experiments on it's own (and foreign) populations speaks for itself. It is interesting how you characterize the lack of trust in these organizations as selfishness. Edit: Apparently I've been posting too fast despite my last post being over an ago, so I can't reply. This post has also been flagged, probably due to the gene therapy comment. Both Modern and the FDA consider it to be a gene therapy. "Currently, mRNA is considered a gene therapy product by the FDA."[1] [1] https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1682852/000168285220000017/mrna-20200630.htm https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1682852/000168285220...
- md_ 5y ago
  I guess I'm just willing to live dangerously. Lots of folks are just too coddled and unwilling to take a risk, even for the greater good. Back in the good old days, we were really willing to take risks--to cross oceans, even, as the op wrote--to do new things that could benefit our fellow human beings. Now it's all about "Oh no, this is a novel therapy that might infinitesimally increase my personal risk". Really kind of sad.
  - kook_throwaway 5y ago
    >Lots of folks are just too coddled and unwilling to take a risk, even for the greater good. I'm not sure how you arrived here from my comment. If I was willing to dox myself you'd see that I have probably taken more risks for 'the greater good'™ than you or even most folks on this site. But those days are over, and this whole situation is setting off all of my finely tuned alarm bells. You should spend less time stereotyping and more time attempting to understand others. Letting others do as they please is also a risk 'for the greater good', by the way.
    - md_ 5y ago
      > I'm not sure how you arrived here from my comment. If I was willing to dox myself you'd see that I have probably taken more risks for 'the greater good'™ than you or even most folks on this site. But those days are over, and this whole situation is setting off all of my finely tuned alarm bells. Thank you for your service. In comparison, it seems to me the least I can do is get vaccinated, which is a tiny risk compared to the great deeds you have done. You've inspired me, sir.
- Zambyte 5y ago
  > a novel gene therapy I recommend a 7th grade biology class. mRNA does not touch genes at all. Let alone modify them.
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- artificialLimbs 5y ago
  We used to like spraying DDT on kids at pool parties until the 'settled science' got challenged.
  - disneygibson 5y ago
    It is really scary how trustful people are of pharmaceutical corporations. We don’t even need to go back to DDT; the opioid epidemic was quite recent. What happened to the skeptics?

by md_ 5y ago

kook_throwaway 5y ago

>Lots of folks afraid to take a shot that's been well-studied and given to millions and is, in all probability, quite safe. ;) That's one way to describe it. Another less charitable way to describe it: a novel gene therapy being deployed by organizations with a long history of experimenting on the people they were meant to protect. Pfizer and J&J got the two biggest fines ever handed out by the US government, and moderna and biontech have never had a drug approved before. The US government's history of performing medical experiments on it's own (and foreign) populations speaks for itself. It is interesting how you characterize the lack of trust in these organizations as selfishness. Edit: Apparently I've been posting too fast despite my last post being over an ago, so I can't reply. This post has also been flagged, probably due to the gene therapy comment. Both Modern and the FDA consider it to be a gene therapy. "Currently, mRNA is considered a gene therapy product by the FDA."[1] [1] https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1682852/000168285220000017/mrna-20200630.htm https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1682852/000168285220...

md_ 5y ago
I guess I'm just willing to live dangerously. Lots of folks are just too coddled and unwilling to take a risk, even for the greater good. Back in the good old days, we were really willing to take risks--to cross oceans, even, as the op wrote--to do new things that could benefit our fellow human beings. Now it's all about "Oh no, this is a novel therapy that might infinitesimally increase my personal risk". Really kind of sad.
- kook_throwaway 5y ago
  >Lots of folks are just too coddled and unwilling to take a risk, even for the greater good. I'm not sure how you arrived here from my comment. If I was willing to dox myself you'd see that I have probably taken more risks for 'the greater good'™ than you or even most folks on this site. But those days are over, and this whole situation is setting off all of my finely tuned alarm bells. You should spend less time stereotyping and more time attempting to understand others. Letting others do as they please is also a risk 'for the greater good', by the way.
  - md_ 5y ago
    > I'm not sure how you arrived here from my comment. If I was willing to dox myself you'd see that I have probably taken more risks for 'the greater good'™ than you or even most folks on this site. But those days are over, and this whole situation is setting off all of my finely tuned alarm bells. Thank you for your service. In comparison, it seems to me the least I can do is get vaccinated, which is a tiny risk compared to the great deeds you have done. You've inspired me, sir.
Zambyte 5y ago
> a novel gene therapy I recommend a 7th grade biology class. mRNA does not touch genes at all. Let alone modify them.
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artificialLimbs 5y ago
We used to like spraying DDT on kids at pool parties until the 'settled science' got challenged.
- disneygibson 5y ago
  It is really scary how trustful people are of pharmaceutical corporations. We don’t even need to go back to DDT; the opioid epidemic was quite recent. What happened to the skeptics?