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It's more invasive than that. I've seen MIT research using several WiFi routers to detect heart rate and respiration[1]. It's not too much of a leap to using it

It's more invasive than that. I've seen MIT research using several WiFi routers to detect heart rate and respiration[1]. It's not too much of a leap to using it as a lie detector. A little more of a leap, and you get cameras watching window shoppers, plus some Machine Learning, to get a system able to detect which items excite which shoppers when they look at the items (via heart rate and respiration). Could also maybe be used to detect shoplifters. [1] https://www.medgadget.com/2014/06/mits-wifi-system-detects-peoples-breathing-heart-rate-even-through-walls.html https://www.medgadget.com/2014/06/mits-wifi-system-detects-p...

moonchrome 5y ago
They can't get a lie detector to work with the sensors strapped to you...
- skocznymroczny 5y ago
  Does it really matter? The more ambiguous the result, the better for them.
  - wpietri 5y ago
    For sure. If people want something enough, somebody's going to try to sell it to them whether or not it works. People really, really want lie detectors.
  - Loughla 5y ago
    My experience in having a polygraph test applied to me after the business I worked at was robbed is that the results absolutely have no bearing on how the cops act afterward. They only bring you in for that in order to tell you that you failed, and should confess now in order to secure a lighter sentence. Had I not had a family friend who was an ex-police officer, I would've been absolutely scared shitless during that experience. Even knowing they were going to do it, I was still absolutely terrified. It's a fucking travesty that they are allowed to use pseudo-science mumbo-jumbo to terrify people into confessing. I lost all faith in the US police system in 2001 when I had to go through that. I have zero faith in their ability or even willingness to be 'the good guys.'
  - ryan93 5y ago
    For who?
- macksd 5y ago
  How much existing advertising technology works seems to be questionable. Lie detectors aren't admissable in court for good reason, but they are still considered useful to help lead investigators in the right direction, especially against people that aren't trained or trying to defeat them.
  - bbatha 5y ago
    Mostly because of the placebo effect ie most people think lie detectors work and it makes you uncomfortable and stressed to have a device strapped to you while someone with authority asks serious questions.
  - ipaddr 5y ago
    It leads them down random directions because false positives are extremely common and more importanty false negatives can lead an investigation away from the truth. It picks up one set of signals that can be altered based on the interviewer. And is colored by the person trying to understand the test.
- knodi123 5y ago
  a stress detector that merely alerts security to take a closer look is a lot more achievable.
jjaammee 5y ago
It's great for healthcare to general public. Think of cheap non contact heart rate monitor.

moonchrome 5y ago

They can't get a lie detector to work with the sensors strapped to you...

skocznymroczny 5y ago
Does it really matter? The more ambiguous the result, the better for them.
- wpietri 5y ago
  For sure. If people want something enough, somebody's going to try to sell it to them whether or not it works. People really, really want lie detectors.
- Loughla 5y ago
  My experience in having a polygraph test applied to me after the business I worked at was robbed is that the results absolutely have no bearing on how the cops act afterward. They only bring you in for that in order to tell you that you failed, and should confess now in order to secure a lighter sentence. Had I not had a family friend who was an ex-police officer, I would've been absolutely scared shitless during that experience. Even knowing they were going to do it, I was still absolutely terrified. It's a fucking travesty that they are allowed to use pseudo-science mumbo-jumbo to terrify people into confessing. I lost all faith in the US police system in 2001 when I had to go through that. I have zero faith in their ability or even willingness to be 'the good guys.'
- ryan93 5y ago
  For who?
macksd 5y ago
How much existing advertising technology works seems to be questionable. Lie detectors aren't admissable in court for good reason, but they are still considered useful to help lead investigators in the right direction, especially against people that aren't trained or trying to defeat them.
- bbatha 5y ago
  Mostly because of the placebo effect ie most people think lie detectors work and it makes you uncomfortable and stressed to have a device strapped to you while someone with authority asks serious questions.
- ipaddr 5y ago
  It leads them down random directions because false positives are extremely common and more importanty false negatives can lead an investigation away from the truth. It picks up one set of signals that can be altered based on the interviewer. And is colored by the person trying to understand the test.
knodi123 5y ago
a stress detector that merely alerts security to take a closer look is a lot more achievable.

jjaammee 5y ago

It's great for healthcare to general public. Think of cheap non contact heart rate monitor.