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But vaccines do reduce spread. https://archive.is/fCv5F https://archive.is/fCv5F (National Geographic) https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0607-mrna-reduc

But vaccines do reduce spread. https://archive.is/fCv5F https://archive.is/fCv5F (National Geographic) https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0607-mrna-reduce-risks.html https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0607-mrna-reduce-ri... That's why states with higher vaccination rates are seeing less spread than states with low vaccination rates. https://www.wsj.com/articles/highly-vaccinated-states-keep-worst-covid-19-outcomes-in-check-as-delta-spreads-wsj-analysis-shows-11628328602 https://www.wsj.com/articles/highly-vaccinated-states-keep-w... No, it doesn't absolutely prevent spread, but that's a ridiculous standard (often used to assure a certain rhetorical outcome rather than to shed light on the subject).

TOMDM 5y ago
I can't believe we're still arguing this on this forum of all places. The very worst estimates of the vaccines efficacy rate against the Delta variant sit at 30-50% for various measures. People on this forum are ecstatic about improving systems by 2-3% on the regular, and here is a free and easy measure that measurably reduces the mortality rate of yourself and those around you and we are _still_ arguing about it. I used to think much more highly of the quality of discussion on here.
- halfmatthalfcat 5y ago
  I agree, participating in this discussion today has been disheartening.