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The idea is to use some peoples receptivity to religion for shifting their awareness to the risks of traveling. It can also help to center thoughts, calm down,

The idea is to use some peoples receptivity to religion for shifting their awareness to the risks of traveling. It can also help to center thoughts, calm down, and increase mindfulness while steering the motorized vehicle, therefore decreasing traffic accidents. (I wonder whether there are studies on if this actually helps.)

bbarnett 5y ago
It can also help to center thoughts, calm down Most muslims are good folk, but unfortunately there is a small radical subset which are not. I wonder if loud prayers, whist in a plane or driving tonnes of vehicle, is a good thing in their case.
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- bavell 5y ago
  Most [literally any group of humans] are good folk, but unfortunately there is a small radical subset which are not. FTFY.
  - bbarnett 5y ago
    Sure. However the thread is about Islamic prayer.
  - mensetmanusman 5y ago
    Only if there is an abundance of resources…
adriand 5y ago
Ah, that's interesting. Speaking from personal experience (and as an atheist, who happened to grow up in a religious household), I think many atheists are too quick to dismiss the value of rituals/prayers/meditations. As you pointed out, there can be value even if the deity to whom the prayer is offered doesn't exist or isn't listening. For example, growing up my family began and ended each meal with a prayer of, essentially, thanksgiving, with a few other requests thrown in ("keep us safe", etc.) This delimited the meal time: we were there for the duration, we all started eating together and there was no leaving before the meal had ended. I don't remember the prayer any more but I do have fond memories of family dinners, the unity and connection we all experienced during that time and the spirited conversations they featured. Prayers of thanksgiving also center the experience of eating in one of gratitude.
- bavell 5y ago
  There's deeply embedded programming in our brains related to sharing a meal with others which strengthens social bonds. Rituals like this very much play into that. As do lunch with colleagues or dinner dates.

bbarnett 5y ago

It can also help to center thoughts, calm down Most muslims are good folk, but unfortunately there is a small radical subset which are not. I wonder if loud prayers, whist in a plane or driving tonnes of vehicle, is a good thing in their case.

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bavell 5y ago
Most [literally any group of humans] are good folk, but unfortunately there is a small radical subset which are not. FTFY.
- bbarnett 5y ago
  Sure. However the thread is about Islamic prayer.
- mensetmanusman 5y ago
  Only if there is an abundance of resources…

adriand 5y ago

Ah, that's interesting. Speaking from personal experience (and as an atheist, who happened to grow up in a religious household), I think many atheists are too quick to dismiss the value of rituals/prayers/meditations. As you pointed out, there can be value even if the deity to whom the prayer is offered doesn't exist or isn't listening. For example, growing up my family began and ended each meal with a prayer of, essentially, thanksgiving, with a few other requests thrown in ("keep us safe", etc.) This delimited the meal time: we were there for the duration, we all started eating together and there was no leaving before the meal had ended. I don't remember the prayer any more but I do have fond memories of family dinners, the unity and connection we all experienced during that time and the spirited conversations they featured. Prayers of thanksgiving also center the experience of eating in one of gratitude.

bavell 5y ago
There's deeply embedded programming in our brains related to sharing a meal with others which strengthens social bonds. Rituals like this very much play into that. As do lunch with colleagues or dinner dates.