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A hard hat isn't a medical procedure. Some die from this vaccine. I weighed up the options and decided it was by far the lower risk option. I think people nee
by xupybd 5y ago
A hard hat isn't a medical procedure. Some die from this vaccine.
I weighed up the options and decided it was by far the lower risk option.
I think people need to be free to make that choice.
Freedom is so valuable.
- thehappypm 5y agoHas anyone died from Pfizer? I’ve seen cases of heart inflammation, but I haven’t heard of any deaths.
- xupybd 5y agoWe have had one death in NZ. We're a small population so it's significant. https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/126225003/covid19-woman-with-medical-issues-dies-from-myocarditis-rare-sideeffect-of-pfizer-vaccine https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/126225003/...
- thehappypm 5y agoYeah, I suppose deaths are always possible from anything. You could give out a million lollipops and someone would choke. Someone has probably had an infection just from the needle itself.
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- BoHerfIIIJrEsq 5y agoI'm not certain I'm using VAERS correctly, but it looks to me as if there are 2,292 death reports associated with Pfizer's vaccine in the US alone, or 321 if I specify ages below 60. Whatever number of reports there are in VAERS is likely to be a small fraction of the true total. This post brought to you some crazy number of minutes late due to rate limiting.
- iluvcommunism 5y agoVAERS shows several thousand have died. Some estimate 45k based on a Harvard study on VAERS indicating a % that goes unreported.
- tomrod 5y agoPlease, cite your source.
- bluedino 5y agoDeaths on VAERs doesn't meant it was caused by COVID (I'm sure you're aware of this but the grandparent poster was probably not https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-vaers-9318/fact-check-reports-of-9318-vaers-covid-19-vaccine-deaths-do-not-prove-causality-idUSL1N2P21CV https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-vaers-9318/fact-ch...
- tomrod 5y agoIndeed. Baselining is important, even if an estimate.
- iluvcommunism 5y agoIndeed. You should read some of these reports. It sounds like you haven’t. If someone gets the vaccine and dies the next day, sure it is very possible it is not the cause. But it should be reported. And when many people have the same symptoms after a vaccine, it becomes a common side effect.
- tomrod 5y agoI have read them -- and we are in complete agreement. Here is some great information: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfFeocgSKvU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfFeocgSKvU
- sbelskie 5y ago“The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) database contains information on *unverified* reports of adverse events (illnesses, health problems and/or symptoms) following immunization with US-licensed vaccines. *Reports are accepted from anyone*…”
- op00to 5y agoGreat point, thank you for letting me know a hard hat isn't a medical procedure. If my aunt had wheels, she'd be a tea cart. I'm sure I can find someone who died BECAUSE they were wearing protective head PPE - a hat strap got caught and strangled them, whatever. The more important point that you ignore is people are horrible at weighing relative risk. You're obviously intelligent and aware of the biases inherent in judging vaccination risk. I'm sure you know crossing the street is far more risky. There is a consistent pattern of unvaccinated, dying covid patients claiming they underestimated the risk of the illness and wish they had gotten vaccinated. People are literally unable to make that choice for themselves. There's proof. What's the point of "freedom" if we're all stuck in our houses hiding from variant after variant because we refuse to acknowledge that our government needs to make a decision that will save lives [1] when our actual survival is at risk. [1] https://www.healthline.com/health-news/covid-19-vaccines-saved-140000-lives-over-first-5-months-of-2021 https://www.healthline.com/health-news/covid-19-vaccines-sav...
- xupybd 5y agoI don't think people shouldn't be educated and encouraged to get this vaccine. I don't think the government should stay out of that. I believe these are coercive tactics and the government should avoid coercion at all costs.