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How is this different from requiring hard hats? A hard hat won’t save you from getting a cut on your head from a dropped hammer but it will save you from having
by op00to 5y ago
How is this different from requiring hard hats? A hard hat won’t save you from getting a cut on your head from a dropped hammer but it will save you from having it break your head in two. Should OSHA stop requiring PPE?
- BoHerfIIIJrEsq 5y agoDoes a hat produce irreversible changes in your body whose long-term effects are unknown?
- mysterydip 5y agoFrom what others are saying, it's the unknown long term effects that are the difference. What if, knowing what we do now about it, OSHA required asbestos-lined jackets?
- tialaramex 5y agoAsbestos fire-proofing made a substantial difference. We did not - in fact - go from "Let's make things fire-proof with asbestos" to "Eh, asbestos is bad, guess everything will burn down instead" but instead moved to fire-proofing with new materials in countries that could afford to do that. Lots of older buildings have asbestos that's preventing fires and won't cause noticeable harm so long as it's undisturbed. The fibres are a problem, but a sheet of material under a layer of plaster isn't breaking off fibres that can get into your lungs. If your job is to rip out plaster and re-model buildings then that's a huge problem, but if you just live in a building you're getting much more benefit from it not catching fire than you'd get from very minutely reducing your risk of lung damage from asbestos. In fact even for a brand new building, although it's banned in some places, "Let's use asbestos" makes more sense than "Eh, so what if it burns down and a few dozen people die", so if those are the available choices you should go with asbestos. So it is with the available COVID-19 vaccines. SARS-CoV-2 is very dangerous and, outside of New Zealand and a handful of Pacific islands, widespread, so you're just way more likely to get very sick or die as a result of not being vaccinated than suffer a serious side effect, known or hypothetical.
- landemva 5y agoI am required to wear (chemical-infused) flame retardant clothing on oil and gas wells. Some people have to work despite the chemicals rubbing their skin all day.
- xupybd 5y agoA hard hat isn't a medical procedure. Some die from this vaccine. I weighed up the options and decided it was by far the lower risk option. I think people need to be free to make that choice. Freedom is so valuable.
- thehappypm 5y agoHas anyone died from Pfizer? I’ve seen cases of heart inflammation, but I haven’t heard of any deaths.
- xupybd 5y agoWe have had one death in NZ. We're a small population so it's significant. https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/126225003/covid19-woman-with-medical-issues-dies-from-myocarditis-rare-sideeffect-of-pfizer-vaccine https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/126225003/...
- thehappypm 5y agoYeah, I suppose deaths are always possible from anything. You could give out a million lollipops and someone would choke. Someone has probably had an infection just from the needle itself.
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- BoHerfIIIJrEsq 5y agoI'm not certain I'm using VAERS correctly, but it looks to me as if there are 2,292 death reports associated with Pfizer's vaccine in the US alone, or 321 if I specify ages below 60. Whatever number of reports there are in VAERS is likely to be a small fraction of the true total. This post brought to you some crazy number of minutes late due to rate limiting.
- iluvcommunism 5y ago