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All this would be much less if a problem if people didn’t have to work to survive. Universal healthcare and UBI are would enable much more employer freedom in

• nomel 5y ago
  > if people didn’t have to work to survive Living has always required energy, effort, and skill. How can we get around this without some sort of parasitic relationship? Do you have any recommendation for some reading for a sustainable model? From my understanding, UBI is largely unproven.
  • konschubert 5y ago
    Most people will want more than just the basics. Most people won't be satisfied with UBI. They want to earn something on top. So people will still want to work. But they no longer are forced to take any job just to survive. I'm sorry I don't have reading recommendations. This doesn't mean they don't exist, I am just not deep enough into this topic to ever have looked for them.
    • shados 5y ago
      I'm a big UBI advocate, but even if we went that route, it will require a certain maturity on both the government and the citizens. It won't be long before people are in the street saying UBI isn't enough as you can't buy a house in a big city while feeding a family of 4 with it. We'd need to, as a society, draw a line in the sand as to what "the basics" are (it's extremely subjective. I think MIT or Harvard has a site with threshold they consider the minimum, but it uses arbitrary metric like expected amount of kids, and it's by city). Once we pick, while we should always be ready to revisit, it can't be a constant thing. If folks are robbing CVS saying they wouldn't if UBI was higher (assuming it was set to a reasonable amount to begin with. A big if), we're not much better off than where we are now.