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> Gosh, disturbing comment section for disturbing times. When experimental medical treatments become mandatory for illnesses that have a 99%+ survival rate, and

by zhdc1 5y ago

> Gosh, disturbing comment section for disturbing times. When experimental medical treatments become mandatory for illnesses that have a 99%+ survival rate, and there is absolutely NO LONG TERM safety data, some red flags should be raised. The current case fatality rate is averaging around 2%, but that's with access to medical care. The CFR at the early stages of the pandemic, and in countries without good medical systems, is much higher. See Italy during the first wave, which peaked at around 15%, or several Central and South American countries, which have averaged between 5% and 10%.

quotemstr 5y ago
> The current case fatality rate is averaging around 2%, but that's with access to medical care. This is an order of magnitude off from what the data actually say. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1001354/Variants_of_Concern_VOC_Technical_Briefing_17.pdf https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/... See table 4. Delta: total cases: 92,029 Deaths within 28 days: 117 100 * (117 / 92,029) = 0.127% No, not anywhere close to 2%. 5%? 10%? It never got anywhere near that. This disease just isn't that deadly and we need to recognize that.
- zhdc1 5y ago
  Your pamphlet was published in June, at the start of the Delta-variant infection spike. On average, it takes eighteen days before someone infected with COVID-19 passes away from it. The UK had 769 COVID-19 related deaths over the last week, which was up from 654 the week before. Source: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19latestinsights/deaths https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthan... The UK has had a total case fatality rate of 1.9%. Source: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
- kylebyproxy 5y ago
  > This disease just isn't that deadly Vs. 4.6M dead worldwide, discounting 2nd order excess deaths. How can you be so blithe?
  - quotemstr 5y ago
    The world has almost eight billion people.

by zhdc1 5y ago

quotemstr 5y ago

> The current case fatality rate is averaging around 2%, but that's with access to medical care. This is an order of magnitude off from what the data actually say. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1001354/Variants_of_Concern_VOC_Technical_Briefing_17.pdf https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/... See table 4. Delta: total cases: 92,029 Deaths within 28 days: 117 100 * (117 / 92,029) = 0.127% No, not anywhere close to 2%. 5%? 10%? It never got anywhere near that. This disease just isn't that deadly and we need to recognize that.

zhdc1 5y ago
Your pamphlet was published in June, at the start of the Delta-variant infection spike. On average, it takes eighteen days before someone infected with COVID-19 passes away from it. The UK had 769 COVID-19 related deaths over the last week, which was up from 654 the week before. Source: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19latestinsights/deaths https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthan... The UK has had a total case fatality rate of 1.9%. Source: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
kylebyproxy 5y ago
> This disease just isn't that deadly Vs. 4.6M dead worldwide, discounting 2nd order excess deaths. How can you be so blithe?
- quotemstr 5y ago
  The world has almost eight billion people.