Sloppy engineers: - see programming as an obstacle. - hate programming. - never talk about technology. - care about marking tasks as done. - think that the

Sloppy engineers: - see programming as an obstacle. - hate programming. - never talk about technology. - care about marking tasks as done. - think that there are more important things than uptime. - get favored by task-oriented managers and may get promoted to roles they may not be able to successfully interview for. - their success encourages other engineers to be sloppy. Real engineers: - see programming as part of their job and try to be competent at it. - have a passion for what they do and how they do it. - can have an interesting conversation about technology. - care about sustainable productivity and managing tech debt to achieve that. - recognize that without uptime, the product doesn't exist. - get passed on promotions by task-oriented managers. - their success encourage other engineers to pursue excellence. There are frontend engineers and product-oriented engineers that care about their craft and are knowledgeable engineers, but it's not a requirement. For infrastructure roles, a desire to understand things deeply is required.