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Biden Will Announce Vaccine Mandate for Companies with 100 Employees

12 points by sethammons 5y ago

sethammons 5y ago
For those who support this: would you also support a similar initiative to mandate a healthy workforce with a weekly mandatory fitness test or proof of completed exercise to be allowed into the office?
- mynameishere 5y ago
  Most people who already did exercise would probably be perfectly happy to force their own behavior and beliefs on others. That's what I've been learning about people these days. ... One curiosity of this affair is that OSHA (a few months ago) made a declaration that significantly curtailed the ability of workplaces to force unwanted medical interventions on employees: https://tidewaterforum.blog/2021/05/05/osha-imposes-new-rule-for-employer-required-covid-19-vaccines/ https://tidewaterforum.blog/2021/05/05/osha-imposes-new-rule... “OSHA states that if a vaccine is required [as a condition of employment], then any adverse reaction is considered work-related and therefore it must be recorded.” It was the first time in many years that a government bureaucracy did something for, rather than against, the people. At the time I remember thinking "Damn, the freaking ladder police are the heroes of a generation!" Well, it got reversed quick. And I think Biden's handlers, by using OSHA now to do the exact opposite--forcing unwanted drugs on people--are slyly punishing humiliated civil servants on top of advancing the NWO.
  - h2odragon 5y ago
    Today the relevant section of that OSHA FAQ reads: > DOL and OSHA, as well as other federal agencies, are working diligently to encourage COVID-19 vaccinations. OSHA does not wish to have any appearance of discouraging workers from receiving COVID-19 vaccination, and also does not wish to disincentivize employers' vaccination efforts. As a result, OSHA will not enforce 29 CFR 1904's recording requirements to require any employers to record worker side effects from COVID-19 vaccination at least through May 2022. We will reevaluate the agency’s position at that time to determine the best course of action moving forward. https://www.osha.gov/coronavirus/faqs#vaccine https://www.osha.gov/coronavirus/faqs#vaccine
- seattle_spring 5y ago
  Is obesity contagious?
  - resource0x 5y ago
    Does the vaccine prevent you from spreading the disease?
    - davidcbc 5y ago
      It reduces your risk of spreading the disease significantly.
    - dragonwriter 5y ago
      > Does the vaccine prevent you from spreading the disease? Yes (in the usual health prevention sense of “reduce the risk of”, not in the strict sense of “pose an absolute bar to”).
      - Andys 5y ago
        You might want to check the science on that - for the Delta variant.
        dragonwriter 5y ago
        > You might want to check the science on that - for the Delta variant. I have. The general vaccine effects that it reduces likelihood of contagious infection seems to be very true of Delta, as does the effect that it reduces the length of contagious infection appear to remain. The effect that it doesn't seem to have with Delta that it had with some previous variant is reducing viral count in breakthrough infections compared to nonvaccinated infections. The media, on the basis of “if it bleeds, it leads” and “man bites dog news, dog bites man not” has highlighted the science relating to the absence of the last effect, but not as much that relating to the presence of the first two.
  - SnowProblem 5y ago
    More than you would think. Many health habits, both good and bad, spread socially. https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2007/07/obesity-is-contagious/ https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2007/07/obesity-is-co...
- r4wy5 5y ago
  I'd like to know all the faggots that have aids in my workplace so I don't contract it from them.
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  The mandate is to mitigate contagion; vaccination reduces risk to others. Obesity is not communicable.
transfire 5y ago
Unconstitutional.
- deleted 5y ago
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r4wy5 5y ago
A special "fuck you" to all the piece of shit liberals on this site that support this. I hope you all get hit by cars.
bachmeier 5y ago
The headline is false. Even says so in the subtitle of the article: "The president will direct OSHA to require either vaccination or frequent testing."
- sethammons 5y ago
  Is your concern over the lack of "or frequent testing" in the headline? Or is it that Biden is not doing something, OSHA will be? I think both are pedantic.
  - bachmeier 5y ago
    Pedantic? "Vaccine Mandate" and "Required to undergo regular testing if not vaccinated" are very, very different.
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dang 5y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28472856 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28472856

12 points by sethammons 5y ago

For those who support this: would you also support a similar initiative to mandate a healthy workforce with a weekly mandatory fitness test or proof of completed exercise to be allowed into the office?

mynameishere 5y ago
Most people who already did exercise would probably be perfectly happy to force their own behavior and beliefs on others. That's what I've been learning about people these days. ... One curiosity of this affair is that OSHA (a few months ago) made a declaration that significantly curtailed the ability of workplaces to force unwanted medical interventions on employees: https://tidewaterforum.blog/2021/05/05/osha-imposes-new-rule-for-employer-required-covid-19-vaccines/ https://tidewaterforum.blog/2021/05/05/osha-imposes-new-rule... “OSHA states that if a vaccine is required [as a condition of employment], then any adverse reaction is considered work-related and therefore it must be recorded.” It was the first time in many years that a government bureaucracy did something for, rather than against, the people. At the time I remember thinking "Damn, the freaking ladder police are the heroes of a generation!" Well, it got reversed quick. And I think Biden's handlers, by using OSHA now to do the exact opposite--forcing unwanted drugs on people--are slyly punishing humiliated civil servants on top of advancing the NWO.
- h2odragon 5y ago
  Today the relevant section of that OSHA FAQ reads: > DOL and OSHA, as well as other federal agencies, are working diligently to encourage COVID-19 vaccinations. OSHA does not wish to have any appearance of discouraging workers from receiving COVID-19 vaccination, and also does not wish to disincentivize employers' vaccination efforts. As a result, OSHA will not enforce 29 CFR 1904's recording requirements to require any employers to record worker side effects from COVID-19 vaccination at least through May 2022. We will reevaluate the agency’s position at that time to determine the best course of action moving forward. https://www.osha.gov/coronavirus/faqs#vaccine https://www.osha.gov/coronavirus/faqs#vaccine
seattle_spring 5y ago
Is obesity contagious?
- resource0x 5y ago
  Does the vaccine prevent you from spreading the disease?
  - davidcbc 5y ago
    It reduces your risk of spreading the disease significantly.
  - dragonwriter 5y ago
    > Does the vaccine prevent you from spreading the disease? Yes (in the usual health prevention sense of “reduce the risk of”, not in the strict sense of “pose an absolute bar to”).
    - Andys 5y ago
      You might want to check the science on that - for the Delta variant.
      - dragonwriter 5y ago
        > You might want to check the science on that - for the Delta variant. I have. The general vaccine effects that it reduces likelihood of contagious infection seems to be very true of Delta, as does the effect that it reduces the length of contagious infection appear to remain. The effect that it doesn't seem to have with Delta that it had with some previous variant is reducing viral count in breakthrough infections compared to nonvaccinated infections. The media, on the basis of “if it bleeds, it leads” and “man bites dog news, dog bites man not” has highlighted the science relating to the absence of the last effect, but not as much that relating to the presence of the first two.
- SnowProblem 5y ago
  More than you would think. Many health habits, both good and bad, spread socially. https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2007/07/obesity-is-contagious/ https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2007/07/obesity-is-co...
r4wy5 5y ago
I'd like to know all the faggots that have aids in my workplace so I don't contract it from them.
dragonwriter 5y ago
The mandate is to mitigate contagion; vaccination reduces risk to others. Obesity is not communicable.

transfire 5y ago

Unconstitutional.

deleted 5y ago
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r4wy5 5y ago

A special "fuck you" to all the piece of shit liberals on this site that support this. I hope you all get hit by cars.

bachmeier 5y ago

The headline is false. Even says so in the subtitle of the article: "The president will direct OSHA to require either vaccination or frequent testing."

sethammons 5y ago
Is your concern over the lack of "or frequent testing" in the headline? Or is it that Biden is not doing something, OSHA will be? I think both are pedantic.
- bachmeier 5y ago
  Pedantic? "Vaccine Mandate" and "Required to undergo regular testing if not vaccinated" are very, very different.

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dang 5y ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28472856 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28472856