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because the science is evolving so we shouldn't have to mandate those who already have natural immunity. Will coercing someone who has natural immunity to take

because the science is evolving so we shouldn't have to mandate those who already have natural immunity. Will coercing someone who has natural immunity to take a shot or lose their job be truly that much more beneficial to justify? I don't think so and it's ethically wrong.

oliwarner 5y ago
My antibody test was more painful than the pair of injections. Vaccination doesn't harm people with existing antibodies (they just rebuff it faster) and going through the process serves as a good booster.
- whiddershins 5y ago
  You don’t know this. We don’t know this. We have to stop making these statements so casually about things that haven’t been studied.
  - oliwarner 5y ago
    What? They have been studied. For this and for other vaccinations. Kids get duplicate MMRs all the time because of lost paperwork. Sometimes it feels like a new virus comes along and people forget we have 111 years experience with vaccinations.
    - whiddershins 5y ago
      It's not even the same technology.
      - oliwarner 5y ago
        But the method is identical. Get cells to present the proteins you want blasted. One uses direct mRNA deposition, the other hoodwinks denatured viruses into doing exactly the same thing. mRNA isn't a scary new thing, it's a fundamental part of cell function. The clever new thing here is that we can bung it directly into cells to make proteins without having to mess around with carrier viruses. Hundreds of millions of people have been exposed to covid and have also had a vaccine now, so even forgetting that there's no theoretical problem here, it has a physically tested track record.
- landemva 5y ago
  What medieval test did you get? I got the finger prick with a drop of blood. Quick and simple. Biting my tongue is much more painful.
  - oliwarner 5y ago
    The finger prick was more painful than the jabs. Fingers are sensitive. Upper arm muscle isn't.

oliwarner 5y ago

My antibody test was more painful than the pair of injections. Vaccination doesn't harm people with existing antibodies (they just rebuff it faster) and going through the process serves as a good booster.

whiddershins 5y ago
You don’t know this. We don’t know this. We have to stop making these statements so casually about things that haven’t been studied.
- oliwarner 5y ago
  What? They have been studied. For this and for other vaccinations. Kids get duplicate MMRs all the time because of lost paperwork. Sometimes it feels like a new virus comes along and people forget we have 111 years experience with vaccinations.
  - whiddershins 5y ago
    It's not even the same technology.
    - oliwarner 5y ago
      But the method is identical. Get cells to present the proteins you want blasted. One uses direct mRNA deposition, the other hoodwinks denatured viruses into doing exactly the same thing. mRNA isn't a scary new thing, it's a fundamental part of cell function. The clever new thing here is that we can bung it directly into cells to make proteins without having to mess around with carrier viruses. Hundreds of millions of people have been exposed to covid and have also had a vaccine now, so even forgetting that there's no theoretical problem here, it has a physically tested track record.
landemva 5y ago
What medieval test did you get? I got the finger prick with a drop of blood. Quick and simple. Biting my tongue is much more painful.
- oliwarner 5y ago
  The finger prick was more painful than the jabs. Fingers are sensitive. Upper arm muscle isn't.