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I agree and support this. People want to conflate the issues of not believing in vaccines (or whatever words they like to put in peoples mouths) and believing i
by version_five 5y ago
I agree and support this. People want to conflate the issues of not believing in vaccines (or whatever words they like to put in peoples mouths) and believing in having to provide proof of a personal health situation all over the place. It's convenient to pretend that anyone who is against government and corporate overreach is an "anti-vaxxer" instead of actually engage with the issue.
- justaman 5y agoThey have literally redefined "anti-vaxxer" in a similar way to how "racism" was redefined. Its being used as a tool for control.
- mindslight 5y agoThey're getting conflated because the people who are against vaccines are referencing freedom to choose as their primary argument, as if the ability to make bad decisions implies some duty to make bad decisions. I'm against vaccine mandates in principle, but the ultimate cause of the authoritarianism is mass media. Covid has been a fantastic setup for dog and pony shows - political hucksters rail all day about government overreach while inciting their followers to make bad choices. The large scale effects of those bad choices practically demand government intervention. And after the utilitarian system steps in to mitigate the problem, the hucksters take credit for being right about government overreach all along. It's the perfect con for the post-reality media environment - when reality asserts itself and some low level preacher dies of their own kool aid, they just go silent and are replaced by another ignorant voice on the same channel. If we had a level of societal trust such that you could expect that most everyone would be taking measures to prevent spreading Covid, then coming together in large groups (eg employment) would be less of an issue. But as it stands, why would anybody want to go back into the office when it's likely that at least a third of your coworkers will blithely get you sick? And hence OSHA et al step in, using the same rationale as when preventing operating heavy equipment while drunk - it creates an unsafe work environment.
- _fat_santa 5y agoI just hate that there seems to be zero nuance now on the topic. According to the media you're in one of two camps. Camp 1: Pro vaccine, pro mask, pro lockdown, pro doing anything and everything the government says. Camp 2: Anti vaxx, anti mask, anti lockdown, trump supporter, Jan 7th attendee, etc. And it seems that now more than ever, if you're not 10000% in Camp 1, you're automatically assumed to be in Camp 2
- leesalminen 5y agoWhat happened on January 7th?
- _fat_santa 5y agoSorry I meant the 6th. Capitol riot in DC.
- h2odragon 5y agoCan that "zero-tolerance" mindset be productively applied to any problem? We see it in a lot of places, and it never seems to achieve the goals it aims to serve.