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Created this throwaway to say that there are at least some others who agree but are too scared of the current cultural tone to speak openly about this. I feel

Created this throwaway to say that there are at least some others who agree but are too scared of the current cultural tone to speak openly about this. I feel thoroughly alienated from my peer-group and family over their fervor for this response and against any who disagree.

kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 5y ago
Trust me, you are most definitely not alone. Most are like you - quietly going about your business, keeping a low profile.
AndrewBissell 5y ago
I'm right there with you. Had an old friend of over 25 years say to me that it was a "blunt cudgel to enforce a social instinct that is shockingly atrophied in people." Hang in there, you are not alone and we are still in the very early days of this whole operation. Also, you might be able to find a local anti-mask or anti-mandate group on Facebook, I've found having that social support network is really helpful.
- swayvil 5y ago
  Is Facebook allowing those? The censorship (authoritarian as well as consensual) is pretty heavy on facebook, twitter, reddit. Isolating dissenters. Make them feel like lone crazies.
  - AndrewBissell 5y ago
    There is still one that is active in my local area, at least.
longthrow1 5y ago
I'm sorry, but I think this is time to speak up. We're losing rights month by month, slowly following in Australia's authoritarian footsteps. So many who oppose this are too afraid to say anything, and the result is the appearance of overwhelming support for such measures, mainly because those who do support are much more aggressive, louder, willing to directly attack others personally and even physically. We shouldn't resort to those tactics, but we do need to make our voices heard, support each other, reassure everyone that we're just as numerous if not more so. It's important, this is our freedom and that of our children on the line. I'd suggest following Rand Paul on twitter, and as he suggests, refusing to comply with these unscientific and unreasonable orders. (truly, any mandate that fails to take in to account naturally acquired immunity or vaccine risks to individuals as noted in cdc and fda documents is completely lacking in scientific rigor.)
- leesalminen 5y ago
  You say it's time to speak up, but you're using a throwaway account. You could very well be a Russian mis-information agent.
spookthesunset 5y ago
> I feel thoroughly alienated from my peer-group and family over their fervor for this response and against any who disagree. Join the club. You really do need to start speaking out though. This shit has gone on long enough. The idea that it is impossible well intentioned, well reasoned person to object to any part of our current situation is complete rubbish. We are being gaslit and bullied and quite honestly I'm tired of it.

kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 5y ago

Trust me, you are most definitely not alone. Most are like you - quietly going about your business, keeping a low profile.

AndrewBissell 5y ago

I'm right there with you. Had an old friend of over 25 years say to me that it was a "blunt cudgel to enforce a social instinct that is shockingly atrophied in people." Hang in there, you are not alone and we are still in the very early days of this whole operation. Also, you might be able to find a local anti-mask or anti-mandate group on Facebook, I've found having that social support network is really helpful.

swayvil 5y ago
Is Facebook allowing those? The censorship (authoritarian as well as consensual) is pretty heavy on facebook, twitter, reddit. Isolating dissenters. Make them feel like lone crazies.
- AndrewBissell 5y ago
  There is still one that is active in my local area, at least.

longthrow1 5y ago

I'm sorry, but I think this is time to speak up. We're losing rights month by month, slowly following in Australia's authoritarian footsteps. So many who oppose this are too afraid to say anything, and the result is the appearance of overwhelming support for such measures, mainly because those who do support are much more aggressive, louder, willing to directly attack others personally and even physically. We shouldn't resort to those tactics, but we do need to make our voices heard, support each other, reassure everyone that we're just as numerous if not more so. It's important, this is our freedom and that of our children on the line. I'd suggest following Rand Paul on twitter, and as he suggests, refusing to comply with these unscientific and unreasonable orders. (truly, any mandate that fails to take in to account naturally acquired immunity or vaccine risks to individuals as noted in cdc and fda documents is completely lacking in scientific rigor.)

leesalminen 5y ago
You say it's time to speak up, but you're using a throwaway account. You could very well be a Russian mis-information agent.

spookthesunset 5y ago

> I feel thoroughly alienated from my peer-group and family over their fervor for this response and against any who disagree. Join the club. You really do need to start speaking out though. This shit has gone on long enough. The idea that it is impossible well intentioned, well reasoned person to object to any part of our current situation is complete rubbish. We are being gaslit and bullied and quite honestly I'm tired of it.