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Interesting. Never heard this before. Can you provide sources to back this up?

Dig1t 5y ago
Maybe not what you're asking for but here is a perfect example of the misinformation that is spread by the CCP https://worldaffairs.blog/2019/06/02/tiananmen-square-massacre-facts-fiction-and-propaganda/ https://worldaffairs.blog/2019/06/02/tiananmen-square-massac...
- refenestrator 5y ago
  The tagline "objective, nonpartisan and insightful" on 'World Affairs' really brings it home. The Chinese government obviously has its own propaganda, but being anti-China is objective and nonpartisan in the US. It's not taking sides, it's just the natural state of affairs, the entire media thinks so, both kinds of it.
  - CRConrad 5y ago
    > both kinds of it. Country and Western.
    - mbg721 5y ago
      "Stand by your (not-too-state-disapprovedly-effeminate) man..."
  - dragonwriter 5y ago
    > but being anti-China is objective and nonpartisan in the US No, pretty much all American propaganda mills that are not formally associated with a political party claim to be “objective and nonpartisan” (the latter is truly universal, the former or a close synonym quite common). It doesn't matter if the viewpoint being pushed is one orthogonal to the party divide, common to the major factions of both parties, or extremely partisan in its appeal, or even outside of the mainstream of either party. The label is, itself, propaganda (though so routine and formulaic and widely recognized that it only has an impact on the most unaware.)
    - refenestrator 5y ago
      There's a 'foreign policy grownup' archetype who gets credibility for free whether they're on MSNBC or Fox News. That grownup has a default stance of American global supremacy, and China has gotten too big/rich/powerful to be compatible with that worldview.
dirtyid 5y ago
Chinese Defence Minister Wei Fenghe acknowledged and defended the Tiananmen crackdown in 2019. That's pretty much going to be party / national consensus going forward. >stopping the "turbulence" was the "correct" policy. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-48489002 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-48489002

Maybe not what you're asking for but here is a perfect example of the misinformation that is spread by the CCP https://worldaffairs.blog/2019/06/02/tiananmen-square-massacre-facts-fiction-and-propaganda/ https://worldaffairs.blog/2019/06/02/tiananmen-square-massac...

refenestrator 5y ago
The tagline "objective, nonpartisan and insightful" on 'World Affairs' really brings it home. The Chinese government obviously has its own propaganda, but being anti-China is objective and nonpartisan in the US. It's not taking sides, it's just the natural state of affairs, the entire media thinks so, both kinds of it.
- CRConrad 5y ago
  > both kinds of it. Country and Western.
  - mbg721 5y ago
    "Stand by your (not-too-state-disapprovedly-effeminate) man..."
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  > but being anti-China is objective and nonpartisan in the US No, pretty much all American propaganda mills that are not formally associated with a political party claim to be “objective and nonpartisan” (the latter is truly universal, the former or a close synonym quite common). It doesn't matter if the viewpoint being pushed is one orthogonal to the party divide, common to the major factions of both parties, or extremely partisan in its appeal, or even outside of the mainstream of either party. The label is, itself, propaganda (though so routine and formulaic and widely recognized that it only has an impact on the most unaware.)
  - refenestrator 5y ago
    There's a 'foreign policy grownup' archetype who gets credibility for free whether they're on MSNBC or Fox News. That grownup has a default stance of American global supremacy, and China has gotten too big/rich/powerful to be compatible with that worldview.

dirtyid 5y ago

Chinese Defence Minister Wei Fenghe acknowledged and defended the Tiananmen crackdown in 2019. That's pretty much going to be party / national consensus going forward. >stopping the "turbulence" was the "correct" policy. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-48489002 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-48489002